(January 27, 2014 at 12:04 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(January 26, 2014 at 9:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: David's son was not sacrificed let me try once more to get this through your dense head, David's sin was forgiven by God before He made the child ill, so there was no need for a sacrifice for David's sin. Another reason it was not a sacrifice is because man didn't offer the child up to God. Think this will sink in this time, you and other atheist here are so ignorant of what the scriptures say I really do not know why you try, your just making yourself look ridiculous.


Abraham did not sacrifice his son, now you are deliberately lying, and Abraham became the father of the Israelite nation not a hero.
Jephthah made a stupid mistake thinking something other than his daughter would be coming out the door first, God did not tell him to take the life of his daughter, but out of Jephthah's need to keep a vow he killed her. God used this terrible and unfortunate act as a teaching through a reminder of the virgins ceremony of remorse.


I have asked you several times to show where God said to sacrifice children and Drich is now asking the same thing, if you do not have it then you need to quit showing off your ignorance and just stop, you are becoming a pitiful example for atheism.

GC

1. So God just struck David's child with a deadly illness for no reason? Because Yahweh is a cold-blooded murderer? And that's your moral standard by which you condemn child sacrifice?
2. Your heroes of faith include David, Abraham, and Jephthah, the latter two who attempted to kill their child as sacrifices to Yahweh, only one of which was prevented.

And you think there's something wrong with me and my views?

I'm finished with you and your dense, thickheaded ignorance just to try and weasel yourself out of the stupid situation you put yourself in. I have better things to do than argue with a childish person such as yourself.

GC

(January 27, 2014 at 1:30 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(January 27, 2014 at 12:04 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: 1. So God just struck David's child with a deadly illness for no reason? Because Yahweh is a cold-blooded murderer? And that's your moral standard by which you condemn child sacrifice?
2. Your heroes of faith include David, Abraham, and Jephthah, the latter two who attempted to kill their child as sacrifices to Yahweh, only one of which was prevented.

And you think there's something wrong with me and my views?

I'm finished with you and your dense, thickheaded ignorance just to try and weasel yourself out of the stupid situation you put yourself in. I have better things to do than argue with a childish person such as yourself.

GC

GC u said god forgave david before god mad the child ill and die? What was the purpose for that?

I whipped Drich and godschild's asses last time this was discussed with scholarly citations. Best they could do was anachronistic systematic theology.

(January 27, 2014 at 1:44 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: I whipped Drich and godschild's asses last time this was discussed with scholarly citations. Best they could do was anachronistic systematic theology.

When was this? last night between 12 and 6 AM? Oh, captian my captian that's what we refer to as dreaming..

(January 27, 2014 at 4:23 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 27, 2014 at 1:44 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: I whipped Drich and godschild's asses last time this was discussed with scholarly citations. Best they could do was anachronistic systematic theology.

When was this? last night between 12 and 6 AM? Oh, captian my captian that's what we refer to as dreaming..

It was about a year ago.

Drippy has delusions of adequacy!

(January 27, 2014 at 12:04 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: 1. So God just struck David's child with a deadly illness for no reason?

He kinda did:

2 Samuel 12:11-13 Wrote:11 “This is what the Lord says: ‘I am bringing trouble against you. This trouble will come from your own family. I will take your wives from you and give them to someone who is very close to you. He will have sexual relations with your wives, and everyone will know it! 12 You had sexual relations with Bathsheba in secret, but I will punish you so that all the people of Israel can see it.’” 13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan said to David, “The Lord will forgive you, even for this sin. You will not die. 14 But you did things that made the Lord’s enemies lose their respect for him, so your new baby son will die.”

God outright forgives David for most of what he did (ie, no sacrifice required), but takes the life of his newborn child as penance for the mockery that was brought upon his (god's) name. So it was not a sacrifice, in that the child is not offered up for David's sins. The child is killed to punish David for embarrassing god.

Personally, I think it could've been settled with a thunderous kick to David's kingly balls, but I have to admit that god's solution left a much deeper and longer-lasting mark. He's tough to outdo.

(January 27, 2014 at 4:44 pm)Tonus Wrote:

(January 27, 2014 at 12:04 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: 1. So God just struck David's child with a deadly illness for no reason?

He kinda did:

2 Samuel 12:11-13 Wrote:11 “This is what the Lord says: ‘I am bringing trouble against you. This trouble will come from your own family. I will take your wives from you and give them to someone who is very close to you. He will have sexual relations with your wives, and everyone will know it! 12 You had sexual relations with Bathsheba in secret, but I will punish you so that all the people of Israel can see it.’” 13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan said to David, “The Lord will forgive you, even for this sin. You will not die. 14 But you did things that made the Lord’s enemies lose their respect for him, so your new baby son will die.”

God outright forgives David for most of what he did (ie, no sacrifice required), but takes the life of his newborn child as penance for the mockery that was brought upon his (god's) name. So it was not a sacrifice, in that the child is not offered up for David's sins. The child is killed to punish David for embarrassing god.

Personally, I think it could've been settled with a thunderous kick to David's kingly balls, but I have to admit that god's solution left a much deeper and longer-lasting mark. He's tough to outdo.

It's frightening to think that whiny brats like GC claim to want to emulate this baby-killer (apparently embryos have more value than newborn babies in Christian theism).

(January 27, 2014 at 4:29 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote:

(January 27, 2014 at 4:23 pm)Drich Wrote: When was this? last night between 12 and 6 AM? Oh, captian my captian that's what we refer to as dreaming..

It was about a year ago.

Then I'm sure it was worst holding on to, so you could bring it a year later for the first time...

Look if it was that important to you to remember that I'll let you have it uncontested.

You're right you won.

(January 27, 2014 at 1:35 pm)truthBtold Wrote:

(January 27, 2014 at 1:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm finished with you and your dense, thickheaded ignorance just to try and weasel yourself out of the stupid situation you put yourself in. I have better things to do than argue with a childish person such as yourself.

GC

GC u said god forgave david before god mad the child ill and die? What was the purpose for that?

You'll have to ask God that one, I'm not privy to that info.

GC