Does anyone here have any scientific evidence to demonstrate what we feel and see is just our conciousness and all controlled by our brain? That would seem to oppose the idea that we have a soul that leaves our bodies after death and goes to an afterlife. To put it most bluntly evidence against the soul, other than just lack of evidence.
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Conciousness vs. Soul
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Define afterlife.. define soul.. define define define..
Where is that eternal force. .
Where does the conscious go 
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March 1, 2014 at 2:39 pm
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(March 1, 2014 at 2:29 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Does anyone here have any scientific evidence to demonstrate what we feel and see is just our conciousness and all controlled by our brain? That would seem to oppose the idea that we have a soul that leaves our bodies after death and goes to an afterlife. To put it most bluntly evidence against the soul, other than just lack of evidence. Do you have any evidence for the soul? We know that our brain is the home of our mind and consciousness because we have investigated it. People who lose limbs don't have any change in mental function or personality, so we conclude our mind isn't in any of our limbs. People who have had organ transplants do not have any change in mental function or personality, so we conclude that the mind isn't in our organs. But the brain however....We have observed the effects of damage to different parts of the brain and these do affect mental function and personality, therefore we conclude that the mind and consciousness is generated by the brain. You have absolutely no evidence whatsoever for the soul. You can't demonstrate or test for it, so why believe in it? (March 1, 2014 at 2:38 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Well I'm asking for evidence that shows that conciousness ends once we die, that it's all in the brain. There isn't any, but our mind is a manifestation of the brain. It follows logically that when the brain dies, your consciousness dies too.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech  (March 1, 2014 at 2:29 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Does anyone here have any scientific evidence to demonstrate what we feel and see is just our conciousness and all controlled by our brain? That would seem to oppose the idea that we have a soul that leaves our bodies after death and goes to an afterlife. To put it most bluntly evidence against the soul, other than just lack of evidence. (March 1, 2014 at 2:35 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Soul is that there is an eternal force inside of us, that all we feel is not just controlled by our brain. If you are making a positive claim, it is not up to anyone to debunk it. It is up to you to prove it. The burden of proof is on you. Just like if I were to say there is an invisible pink unicorn in my closet, it would be ridiculous for me to ask you for proof that it doesn't exist. So, I put it to you, do you have any empirical evidence that a soul exists?
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I can't comprehend that our conciousness can end. What does it feel like to not exist? I-I-I can't comprehend nothingness.
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Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (March 1, 2014 at 2:43 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: I can't comprehend that our conciousness can end. What does it feel like to not exist? I-I-I can't comprehend nothingness. Well, what did you feel in the billions of years before you were born?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech |
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