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Conciousness vs. Soul
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 (March 1, 2014 at 3:57 pm)truthBtold Wrote:(March 1, 2014 at 3:53 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: No they've seen footage of him. And even if he didn't exist they love his work. Did ya watch it?  RE: Conciousness vs. Soul
March 1, 2014 at 4:26 pm
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2014 at 4:27 pm by Mystic.)
(March 1, 2014 at 4:04 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:(March 1, 2014 at 3:33 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: I guess the get a soul when they split. You mean testing in by the scientific method. I'm not sure if there is or isn't, but couldn't the same logic be applied to goodness/morality? There is no way to test for goodness, therefore it's a useless hypothesis? Does that sound reasonable? 
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Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (March 1, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You mean testing in by the scientific method. I'm not sure if there is or isn't, but couldn't the same logic be applied to goodness/morality? morality is a concept invented by humans. It is the name of a code of ethics we use to get along with each other. And you can definitely test morality. And there is definitely evidence that morality exists. Unlike the soul
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech RE: Conciousness vs. Soul
March 1, 2014 at 4:48 pm
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2014 at 4:49 pm by Mystic.)
(March 1, 2014 at 4:45 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:(March 1, 2014 at 4:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You mean testing in by the scientific method. I'm not sure if there is or isn't, but couldn't the same logic be applied to goodness/morality? So it's a concept without a reality behind it? Is love just a concept too? How is it just a code when we measure up people by it? How do you test morality? What is the evidence of morality existing?  (March 1, 2014 at 4:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So it's a concept without a reality behind it? Is love just a concept too? How is it just a code when we measure up people by it? How do you test morality? What is the evidence of morality existing?I would suggest taking a look at the research of Frans De Waal. He works with morality in animals, but if animals have morality, certainly humans do, too. (March 1, 2014 at 4:51 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:(March 1, 2014 at 4:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So it's a concept without a reality behind it? Is love just a concept too? How is it just a code when we measure up people by it? How do you test morality? What is the evidence of morality existing?I would suggest taking a look at the research of Frans De Waal. He works with morality in animals, but if animals have morality, certainly humans do, too. When I mean it existing, I obviously know it exists it a certain sense. What I mean by the existing is that it's not just a delusional experience - that we just merely believe we should or it's good to act in certain way, when goodness is just a fantasy. 
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
Scientists have enough difficulty linking the mind to the brain, let alone the soul.
The brain is obviously the machine that facilitates thought, and we know it works using electrical impulses, computing and storing information. Consciousness and personality are a whole extra layer beyond that. 
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 Leader of the gang of jerkoffs(tm) Religious Views: L'Uomo verrà portato dalla sua creazione (March 1, 2014 at 5:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Scientists have enough difficulty linking the mind to the brain, let alone the soul. Indeed, but to jump from that unknown to a supposed 'god' or whatever that means. The god thing isn't even properly defined.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
It helps if you don't try to get ahead of yourself. People have issues with being considered as nothing more than machines, but that's what we are.
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