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RE: Are you cozy with Communism?
March 17, 2014 at 2:01 pm
(March 17, 2014 at 1:35 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: (March 17, 2014 at 1:33 pm)Fromper Wrote: My ideal form of government is a democracy that takes economic ideas from both capitalism and socialism.
Capitalism in its purest form is a slave system where the corporate owners pretty much own the "wage slaves". Socialism in its purest form is a slave system where the government owns the workers. That's why I think the ideal is somewhere in between, where the competing forces of government, business, unions to represent the workers, etc are competing against each other for power. That competition is good overall, and provides the checks and balances needed to keep things fair.
In theory, we're close to having this type of economic system in the United States, but it's still slanted heavily in the direction of capitalism over socialism. That's why I support "liberal" changes such as raising the minimum wage to a living wage, better protections for workers and consumers, etc that limit the power of corporations. But if we ever move too far in the direction of true socialism, then we'll need to balance it back the other way. I don't see that happening any time soon, though.
Do you wish we would have crossed the DMZ and turned Vietnam into a Democratic Country?
We never should have gotten involved in that war to begin with. Just because I think our system of government is a good one (not perfect, but good), that doesn't mean we should be imposing it on other countries. I'm a "lead by example" kind of guy, not a "lead by force" type.
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RE: Are you cozy with Communism?
March 17, 2014 at 2:44 pm
I don't really know how North Vietnam does things, and whether it was right to help South Vietnam, but I'm pretty sure at least helping South Korea was the right thing to do. North Korea is pretty much the worst country in the world.
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RE: Are you cozy with Communism?
March 17, 2014 at 2:47 pm
Communism has failed in every country it's been tried. The only big exception is China, but they tend to have a more government-controlled capitalism than pure communism.
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RE: Are you cozy with Communism?
March 17, 2014 at 2:52 pm
(March 15, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: I guess the way to describe the communism I'm talking about is marxism,(Lenin, Joseph Stalin) Soviet Union, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc.
So you mean dictatorial governments that called themselves communist?
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RE: Are you cozy with Communism?
March 17, 2014 at 2:57 pm
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(March 17, 2014 at 2:52 pm)Tonus Wrote: (March 15, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: I guess the way to describe the communism I'm talking about is marxism,(Lenin, Joseph Stalin) Soviet Union, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc.
So you mean dictatorial governments that called themselves communist?
How many Communist countries don't have Dictators. Give me a list please.
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RE: Are you cozy with Communism?
March 17, 2014 at 3:07 pm
(March 17, 2014 at 2:57 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: How many Communist countries don't have Dictators. Give me a list please. I don't think there has ever been a communist country. Socialist dictatorships don't like to be referred to as socialist dictatorships, for some reason. It's like when you have a government run by a vicious, sadistic, murderous bastard and you call it "Christianity."
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RE: Are you cozy with Communism?
March 17, 2014 at 3:29 pm
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(March 17, 2014 at 3:07 pm)Tonus Wrote: (March 17, 2014 at 2:57 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: How many Communist countries don't have Dictators. Give me a list please. I don't think there has ever been a communist country. Socialist dictatorships don't like to be referred to as socialist dictatorships, for some reason. It's like when you have a government run by a vicious, sadistic, murderous bastard and you call it "Christianity."
Communist Regimes have killed more than 100 million people.
T hat's more than twice what the Nazi's did. Fuck Commmunism!
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RE: Are you cozy with Communism?
March 17, 2014 at 6:00 pm
People that want communism / socialism tend to be lazy fucks that want to eat the fruits of someone else's labor.
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RE: Are you cozy with Communism?
March 17, 2014 at 6:01 pm
(March 17, 2014 at 6:00 pm)KUSA Wrote: People that want communism / socialism tend to be lazy fucks that want to eat the fruits of someone else's labor.
Preach it brother!
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RE: Are you cozy with Communism?
March 17, 2014 at 6:30 pm
They both suck donkey cock.
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