These facts are science facts. If they conflict with your religion, then it's about time you questioned your beliefs.

(March 24, 2014 at 7:51 pm)Heywood Wrote: If you want an example. When he talks about Halley's "prophecy" he goes out of his way to point out it precision in comparison to the "prophecy" of mystics.

Not only am I not sure how that is anti-religion, I'm not even sure what you're referring to.

(March 24, 2014 at 7:52 pm)Faith No More Wrote:

(March 24, 2014 at 7:51 pm)Heywood Wrote: If you want an example. When he talks about Halley's "prophecy" he goes out of his way to point out it precision in comparison to the "prophecy" of mystics.

Not only am I not sure how that is anti-religion, I'm not even sure what you're referring to.

Watch the episode again. Tyson claims with some disdain in his voice and his facial expression, "there was hardly ever a prophecy attempted by the mystics that even strives for comparable precision". He is slamming mystics. If the show is only supposed to get people excited by science, why slam mystics?

You guys seem to get upset at the suggestion that the show has "anti-religious undertones". Why does that bother you?

Quote: Tyson claims with some disdain, "there was hardly ever a prophecy attempted by the mystics that even strives for comparable precision".

Your fucking bible deserves disdain!

Quote:You guys seem to get upset at the suggestion that the show has "anti-religious undertones". Why does that bother you?

Not me. Bring it on.

Since 9/11 there have been a large number of atheists that have finally realized that we can no longer pull punches with the religious communities. I hope Tyson ramps up the anti-religious comments. Fuck 'em.

(March 24, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Heywood Wrote: Watch the episode again. Tyson claims with some disdain in his voice and his facial expression, "there was hardly ever a prophecy attempted by the mystics that even strives for comparable precision". He is slamming mystics. If the show is only supposed to get people excited by science, why slam mystics?

Because part of being excited by science is showing how it is vastly superior to all other attempts at gaining knowledge.

(March 24, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Heywood Wrote: You guys seem to get upset at the suggestion that the show has "anti-religious undertones". Why does that bother you?

It upsets me not because I don't want the show to be seen as having anti-religious undertones. It upsets me because of the hubris and ignorance that is displayed when religious people take offense from people pointing out that their dogma has never led to any verifiable knowledge.

(March 24, 2014 at 8:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:You guys seem to get upset at the suggestion that the show has "anti-religious undertones". Why does that bother you?

Not me. Bring it on.

I just think it is silly to say it doesn't have anti-religious undertones. Its like saying the Chronicles of Narnia don't have Christian undertones.

If CS Lewis can use his book to push an agenda, why can't Tyson?

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(March 24, 2014 at 8:11 pm)Faith No More Wrote: It upsets me not because I don't want the show to be seen as having anti-religious undertones. It upsets me because of the hubris and ignorance that is displayed when religious people take offense when people point out that their dogma has never led to any verifiable knowledge.

Well I'm not butt-hurt that the show has anti-religious undertones so don't be upset at me.

I'm just making an observation. The show isn't just about making people excited about science.

(March 24, 2014 at 7:51 pm)Heywood Wrote: If you want an example. When he talks about Halley's "prophecy" he goes out of his way to point out it precision in comparison to the "prophecy" of mystics.

Halley predicted his comet to return and it did. Christ was supposed to have returned by now and is still a no-show. You need to get over it.

I've had enough of the religious backlash to Cosmos. One question; what has Tyson said that isn't true? That's right, you have nothing. If what Tyson says makes you feel uncomfortable, tough shit. Your negative emotional reactions to demonstrable fact do not warrant serious consideration of your superstitions.

(March 24, 2014 at 8:19 pm)Cato Wrote: Halley predicted his comet to return and it did. Christ was supposed to have returned by now and is still a no-show. You need to get over it.

I didn't know I was upset about this. Thanks for letting me know.

(March 24, 2014 at 8:19 pm)Cato Wrote: I've had enough of the religious backlash to Cosmos. One question; what has Tyson said that isn't true? That's right, you have nothing. If what Tyson says makes you feel uncomfortable, tough shit. Your negative emotional reactions to demonstrable fact do not warrant serious consideration of your superstitions.

You've had enough of this religious backlash? You think its going to go away because you have had enough of it? Sounds like you have something you need to get over.

Good luck on that.

Why state in an atheist forum that you are observing anti-religious undertones then? What did you fucking expect us to say, especially when you not only missed the nail but dropped the hammer on your toe? You're not upset? Then your words are worthless garbage.