(March 30, 2014 at 2:25 pm)Deidre32 Wrote:

(March 30, 2014 at 2:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You don't pick through religions to find him. You find him first then look at religions or not (your choice).

How did you find him? I grew up in Christianity, and was indoctrinated to believe that the God of the Bible was 'thee one and only god.' How does one know what to honestly believe?

I'm sincerely asking you this.

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(March 30, 2014 at 2:25 pm)Losty Wrote: What? Really?? So if a person is never exposed to religion they will just find god? I think not. I was taught a specific religion from birth and I eventually found an absence of god which is how I became an atheist. Where do you find god? Have you found him/her? How do you know it's god?

This is so eery, we were typing pretty much the same line of thought at the same time.

For what morality God has, I think that is simply how we get our own moral sense.

As to how to sense God, it's reflection of a spiritual sense you have of him as well as the nature of your own being with relationship to the eternal source. I think this how I found him. What I mean by spiritual sense is not simply having an idea of him but actually sensing his existence and in a way knowing his existence and the nature of his existence. How much you realize you are acquainted with the nature of his existence and majesty and glory and beauty, is the level of faith.

(March 30, 2014 at 2:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(March 30, 2014 at 1:59 pm)Alex K Wrote: There is no God, so he can't intervene. It's as simple as that.

Heh. This is why I said I am not arguing Islam vs Atheism. I am arguing Islam vs Deism.

Hmmm. I'll have to think whether I believe that is even possible.Well ok, lYou could argue which is more likely, ok.

Why did the Christians like the OP? You know Christianity teaches that Muslims are well, basically fucked, right?

(March 30, 2014 at 2:45 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Why did the Christians like the OP? You know Christianity teaches that Muslims are well, basically fucked, right?

Does it teach that for sure? Is that what all Christians believe?

(March 30, 2014 at 2:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(March 30, 2014 at 2:45 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Why did the Christians like the OP? You know Christianity teaches that Muslims are well, basically fucked, right?

Does it teach that for sure? Is that what all Christians believe?

If they believe Jesus when he said that "no one" comes to the Father (God) except through him and a host of other verses along those lines, regarding sin, hell, and salvation, then yeah. I don't really see how one could be a Christian if they don't take Jesus' teachings seriously. I'm sure there are "other" ways to interpret the text but it wouldn't be in good standing with orthodox Christianity as it has been understood since the earliest converts.

(March 30, 2014 at 12:37 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(March 30, 2014 at 12:24 pm)Chas Wrote: The DNA evidence is conclusive - there was no Adam and Eve. It is not subjective except to those in denial.

Are you saying one mutation in the course of human evolution could never have spread to all of humanity?

How did you so badly misunderstand what I said?

Your statement was:
"I think Adam and Eve were two human beings who had a major positive mutation with the mind. The genes eventually made it to all of humanity because of how advantageous it was as a result we are all children of Adam and Eve. They were chosen of course as well to be spiritual examples to humanity."

I am denying the existence of said Adam and Eve.

(March 30, 2014 at 2:45 pm)pickup_shonuffdateline='1396205129' Wrote: Why did the Christians like the OP? You know Christianity teaches that Muslims are well, basically fucked, right?

I find nothing objectionable in mystics post. At a basic level theists agree. Islam is more closely married to Christianity than most. Hell atheism seems to be part of a search for truth.

C'mon everyone LET'S HUG!

(March 30, 2014 at 5:17 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(March 30, 2014 at 2:45 pm)pickup_shonuffdateline='1396205129' Wrote: Why did the Christians like the OP? You know Christianity teaches that Muslims are well, basically fucked, right?

I find nothing objectionable in mystics post. At a basic level theists agree. Islam is more closely married to Christianity than most. Hell atheism seems to be part of a search for truth.

C'mon everyone LET'S HUG!

Circle jerk

(March 30, 2014 at 2:31 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(March 30, 2014 at 2:25 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: How did you find him? I grew up in Christianity, and was indoctrinated to believe that the God of the Bible was 'thee one and only god.' How does one know what to honestly believe?

I'm sincerely asking you this.

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This is so eery, we were typing pretty much the same line of thought at the same time.

For what morality God has, I think that is simply how we get our own moral sense.

As to how to sense God, it's reflection of a spiritual sense you have of him as well as the nature of your own being with relationship to the eternal source. I think this how I found him. What I mean by spiritual sense is not simply having an idea of him but actually sensing his existence and in a way knowing his existence and the nature of his existence. How much you realize you are acquainted with the nature of his existence and majesty and glory and beauty, is the level of faith.

So god is just a warm fuzzy feeling?

Also once you find this warm fuzzy god within yourself, how do you know which religion to choose? Can you explain how a thousand people can find god and then end up all in a different religion? Is god a prankster or are 999 out of the 1000 just lacking enough faith to use their warm fuzzy god to find the right religion?