(April 10, 2014 at 3:56 pm)FreeTony Wrote: I actually secretly believe in God, but really want to sin.

Yup -- me too.

I iz busted.

Love. To. Sin.

Love it! Love love love!

Other - Non-belief in gods.


You have been told repeatedly by many atheists that atheism is the lack of belief. You just can't wrap your head around that?

(April 10, 2014 at 4:34 pm)Chas Wrote: Other - Non-belief in gods.


You have been told repeatedly by many atheists that atheism is the lack of belief. You just can't wrap your head around that?

I totally understand your frustration chas.

I made the statement in another thread that atheists here make sure everyone understands that atheism is a lack of belief, and they called me a liar and demanded I make a poll.

I would have voted for the second option because it's the correct fucken answer; but since there's an "other" option, I ticked that and here's why. It's really very simple.

Theists have yet to meet, even to address, their burden of proof. Until they do, I am not obliged to believe them.

I don't believe God doesn't exist; I simply lack the belief, just like I lack the belief in unicorns.

I for one am really annoyed that theists think "calling out" atheists have the same lack of evidence for their beliefs they do somehow strengthens their position.

They scoff, and they go "See?! You have a belief just as unfounded as ours is in <God doesn't exist>: you have no evidence he doesn't!"

...And they completely ignore, scoff, and titter every time it's pointed out that while atheists can't prove a negative, there's not only no evidence for God's existence, but an enormous amount of evidence that God is an unnecessary extra complicated idea on top of "we don't know" that doesn't stand up to Occam's Razor.

They don't care. They're so convinced of the validity of their belief in the complete lack of evidence, somehow straw-manning Atheist disbelief as a similar irrational belief is a victory for them.

And it's sad. It's pathetic. But they're too busy trumpeting victory from the rooftops to even notice.

Your thread title is begging the question right away, this title assumes that a god exists to deny the existence of. Seems like shifting the burden of proof as well.

I think that was the h0bb1t's idea of a joke.

As to the topic, I don't know if this one has an official name but there is one habit that's guaranteed to get right up my nose. It's when someone (no names, no pack drill) craps out assertion after assertion and backs those up with yet more assertions, and then wonders why we don't consider that actual convincing evidence; yet at the same time, whenever we make a claim regarding their magic book, we have to bring a note from home, in the form of book, chapter and verse.

Had you only worded the question differently, and left the word "doctrine" out of your first answer. Then I might have answered and ticked the first two.