(April 21, 2014 at 7:23 pm)Losty Wrote:

(April 21, 2014 at 7:06 pm)Sid Wrote: Because you are all wrong and even if I can get a rise out just one sole to consider they should not be here and come experience the Truth in Jesus Christ. He will receive you because he's never apart from you. Just because you don't believe doesn't remove the Truth.

And you think the best way to save a "sole" is by accusing the person of being okay with pedophilia? Have you never heard the expression about catching flies with honey?
Aren't you supposed to be a light? Leading people to god through love and compassion? Oh by the way my soles don't need saving.
I'm gellin'

Considering you folks ain't fallin for the Jesus loves you, even one bit. But he does. Just think about it, there is a poll in this forum that shows approximately 12% of non-believers in here. If just one is questioning their faith and considering this group I hope these exchanges with me makes them think....do I really want to associate with this. It's empty and Man-centered and not worth losing your soul over. Yes we believe in eternal happiness in the presence of The Lord.

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(April 21, 2014 at 7:30 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(April 21, 2014 at 7:26 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: So, Did - isn't it true that to the average Catholic, cornholing the family pet is a great night out?

LAY OFF OF HIM, HE'S JUST ASKING A QUESTION!

Sid, when did you first start raping raccoons?

Hey, I'm just asking. Just. Asking. Questions.

I'm not very fond of raccoons. One violated my kitchen at 3am one evening . 911 sent a rookie cop, snd he actually pulled out his pistol. I was like, whoa, I gotta clean that up and his partner was like, dude put that away. True story!

(April 21, 2014 at 8:04 pm)Sid Wrote: Considering you folks ain't fallin for the Jesus loves you, even one bit. But he does. Just think about it, there is a poll in this forum that shows approximately 12% of non-believers in here. If just one is questioning their faith and considering this group I hope these exchanges with me makes them think....do I really want to associate with this. It's empty and Man-centered and not worth losing your soul over. Yes we believe in eternal happiness in the presence of The Lord.

(April 21, 2014 at 8:04 pm)Sid Wrote: Considering you folks ain't fallin for the Jesus loves you, even one bit. But he does. Just think about it, there is a poll in this forum that shows approximately 12% of non-believers in here. If just one is questioning their faith and considering this group I hope these exchanges with me makes them think....do I really want to associate with this. It's empty and Man-centered and not worth losing your soul over. Yes we believe in eternal happiness in the presence of The Lord.

So you think that what happened here will cause atheists to question whether they want to be involved with atheism, and you actually believe that they'll move over and join the side of the slimy, twisted little fuck who not only prompted the flaming in the first place, but then refuses to take responsibility for his actions after the fact?

You think your preachy, lackadaisical immaturity is preferable over justified anger and affront?

(April 21, 2014 at 6:37 pm)Sid Wrote:

Quote:In a statement read out by Archbishop Silvano Maria Tomasi in September 2009, the Holy See stated "We know now that in the last 50 years somewhere between 1.5% and 5% of the Catholic clergy has been involved in sexual abuse cases", adding that this figure was comparable with that of other groups and denominations.[4]

Quote:The report determined that, during the period from 1950 to 2002, a total of 10,667 individuals had made allegations of child sexual abuse. Of these, the dioceses had been able to substantiate 6,700 accusations against 4,392 priests in the USA, about 4% of all 109,694 priests who served during the time covered by the study.[2] Roughly 4% of the priests were accused, therefore.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ Children’s Bureau report Child Maltreatment 2010 found that 9.2% of victimized children were sexually assaulted
Studies by David Finkelhor, Director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center, show that:
1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys is a victim of child sexual abuse;
Self-report studies show that 20% of adult females and 5-10% of adult males recall a childhood sexual assault or sexual abuse incident;
During a one-year period in the U.S., 16% of youth ages 14 to 17 had been sexually victimized;
Over the course of their lifetime, 28% of U.S. youth ages 14 to 17 had been sexually victimized;
Children are most vulnerable to CSA between the ages of 7 and 13.

This is just one single year in one country. Two wrongs don't make a right. I have stated several times now in this thread that MAN Is flawed, regardless if they are a school teacher, police officer, store clerk, plumber, or yes priest. Are you tearing down schools, police stations, stores, and pulmbing professions?.

...And? You're presenting these statistics from a worldview that says it's completely OK, and that a person can go out and rape as many children they want to Monday through Saturday, show up for confession on Sunday and repent.

And their sins are forgiven.

From that point on, they can go out again and rape more kids, Monday to Saturday, come back and repent. And their sins are forgiven.

They're OK in the eyes of the Almighty.

How can you possibly relate that to a secular worldview that says: child molestation is wrong. Rape is wrong. No take-backs, no begging for forgiveness because "you were weak."

It's wrong. It's unacceptable. Whether or not you believe some supernatural entity "forgives your sins" after the fact, you have ruined someone's life.

You belong to a church that defines the most heinous crimes against humanity as "OK, as long as you really say you're sorry afterward, and accuse us of having a corrupt moral compass?

You belong to a tradition that not only is willing to cover for this kind of inhumane, disgusting destructive behavior, and hold yourself up as a "moral superior" for not only accusing others of what is morally forgivable in your doctrine, but completely forgotten every time you climb into a box with a man wearing the right kind of clothes and say the right words, no matter what horrors the victims of these crimes will have to rebuild the ashes of their lives out of?

What's it like to be that sick, that morally corrupt? How do you get from that low of a place to feigning moral superiority?

Fuck you. Your filthy apologetic belief system is directly responsible for the deaths of some of the best people I have known, who couldn't justify having been raped from early childhood by the people they thought they could trust the most, and now those responsible for their deaths are "off the hook"
and on their way to heaven, while they burn in hell for cutting their wrists when they couldn't take their father, or brother raping them the next time?

You should feel ashamed for even making the comparison.

(April 21, 2014 at 8:17 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(April 21, 2014 at 8:04 pm)Sid Wrote: Considering you folks ain't fallin for the Jesus loves you, even one bit. But he does. Just think about it, there is a poll in this forum that shows approximately 12% of non-believers in here. If just one is questioning their faith and considering this group I hope these exchanges with me makes them think....do I really want to associate with this. It's empty and Man-centered and not worth losing your soul over. Yes we believe in eternal happiness in the presence of The Lord.

So you think that what happened here will cause atheists to question whether they want to be involved with atheism, and you actually believe that they'll move over and join the side of the slimy, twisted little fuck who not only prompted the flaming in the first place, but then refuses to take responsibility for his actions after the fact?

You think your preachy, lackadaisical immaturity is preferable over justified anger and affront?

Yes, that is exactly the premise. Lose any hope in getting an apology too. But that's right atheists don't believe in hope, or do you ? I will not apologize for intentionally sparking a debate. But I'll take full responsibility for doing exactly what I came here to do. Which is reveal your colors and exploit your illusions that Man is at the center of the world.

(April 21, 2014 at 8:20 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:

(April 21, 2014 at 6:37 pm)Sid Wrote: The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ Children’s Bureau report Child Maltreatment 2010 found that 9.2% of victimized children were sexually assaulted
Studies by David Finkelhor, Director of the Crimes Against Children Research Center, show that:
1 in 5 girls and 1 in 20 boys is a victim of child sexual abuse;
Self-report studies show that 20% of adult females and 5-10% of adult males recall a childhood sexual assault or sexual abuse incident;
During a one-year period in the U.S., 16% of youth ages 14 to 17 had been sexually victimized;
Over the course of their lifetime, 28% of U.S. youth ages 14 to 17 had been sexually victimized;
Children are most vulnerable to CSA between the ages of 7 and 13.

This is just one single year in one country. Two wrongs don't make a right. I have stated several times now in this thread that MAN Is flawed, regardless if they are a school teacher, police officer, store clerk, plumber, or yes priest. Are you tearing down schools, police stations, stores, and pulmbing professions?.

...And? You're presenting these statistics from a worldview that says it's completely OK, and that a person can go out and rape as many children they want to Monday through Saturday, show up for confession on Sunday and repent.

And their sins are forgiven.

From that point on, they can go out again and rape more kids, Monday to Saturday, come back and repent. And their sins are forgiven.

They're OK in the eyes of the Almighty.

How can you possibly relate that to a secular worldview that says: child molestation is wrong. Rape is wrong. No take-backs, no begging for forgiveness because "you were weak."

It's wrong. It's unacceptable. Whether or not you believe some supernatural entity "forgives your sins" after the fact, you have ruined someone's life.

You belong to a church that defines the most heinous crimes against humanity as "OK, as long as you really say you're sorry afterward, and accuse us of having a corrupt moral compass?

You belong to a tradition that not only is willing to cover for this kind of inhumane, disgusting destructive behavior, and hold yourself up as a "moral superior" for not only accusing others of what is morally forgivable in your doctrine, but completely forgotten every time you climb into a box with a man wearing the right kind of clothes and say the right words, no matter what horrors the victims of these crimes will have to rebuild the ashes of their lives out of?

What's it like to be that sick, that morally corrupt? How do you get from that low of a place to feigning moral superiority?

Where in the world did you even fathom any of this was ok. Are all you atheists the same. I write one thing and you mangle the message

From your belief system, from what you believe your morality comes from.

And yet, you divert it into a political non-sequitor, because you're apparently not even aware of what the definition of confession is.

Quote:Confession definition. In some churches, notably the Roman Catholic Church, a sacrament in which repentant sinners individually or as a group privately confess their sins in front of a priest and receive absolution from the guilt of their sins.

(April 21, 2014 at 8:36 pm)Sid Wrote: Yes, that is exactly the premise. Lose any hope in getting an apology too. But that's right atheists don't believe in hope, or do you ? I will not apologize for intentionally sparking a debate. But I'll take full responsibility for doing exactly what I came here to do. Which is reveal your colors and exploit your illusions that Man is at the center of the world.

So if I go to a catholic forum, deliberately intimate that they're all child molesters and then play it up as though I'm totally innocent, I can claim to have revealed Catholicism's true colors when they rightfully get angry at me?

Oh wait, I'll probably just actually get banned the moment I say a single negative thing about their religion, because a lot of religious forums literally work that way...

Here's a pro-tip, you ridiculous windbag: if you want to ask a question, there's a completely neutral way to phrase everything so that you don't sound as though you're intimating a preconceived answer. It's the difference between "you like child rape, right?" and "do you like child rape?" and it's a distinction you have failed to see too many times for it not to be deliberate.

Not that I've begun to buy into your bullshit either. I still think you're a despicable liar trying to seem reasonable after saying something terrible.

Right, so the plan here was: flame up a bunch of atheists by implying that they are okay with child molestation, sit back, fan the flames, and then hope someone would say "Wow, look at those asshole atheists, jumping all over that poor Christian. I've suddenly realized that I believe in God again."

Because, Sid, if there were ever a group that has a sordid history that I wouldn't want to be associated with, it's yours. Not that associations are anything even remotely worthy of basing one's worldview on, though. That would be asinine.