(April 29, 2014 at 10:33 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(April 29, 2014 at 3:10 pm)Beccs Wrote: There are several ways.

1. Become an good poster and earn the respect of the membership.
2. Wait until a position becomes available and apply for it, assuming you've achieved 1., above.
3. Blackmail
4. Bribery

The latter two are difficult as their price is high (I've tried) and it's hard to get incriminating/embarrasing pictures of the staff.

You left out assassination. That's how I got in.

I assumed you'd have to wipe out the entire staff to keep knowledge of your actions hidden?

(April 29, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:

(April 29, 2014 at 8:17 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Why not combine the tasks? Argument #2 can be your debate topic with Esq.

Or are you not actually interested in doing anything other than presenting a topic, evading everything substantial, and then declaring yourself the winner?

I do not want to debate Esq. I would like to appeal to the masses. For people to turn to the Lord before it is too late.

Translation: I can't keep up the shuck and jive in a one on one debate.

Do you honestly think there is anyone here who isn't on to your bullshit (besides you, that is)?

(April 29, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:

(April 29, 2014 at 8:17 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Why not combine the tasks? Argument #2 can be your debate topic with Esq.

Or are you not actually interested in doing anything other than presenting a topic, evading everything substantial, and then declaring yourself the winner?

I do not want to debate Esq. I would like to appeal to the masses. For people to turn to the Lord before it is too late.

Lol. You're too funny.

(April 29, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I do not want to debate Esq. I would like to appeal to the masses. For people to turn to the Lord before it is too late.

But the masses have a unified voice saying you are unappealing. Do you not think your message would be more concise and palatable if there were one chain of responses rather than 50?

(April 29, 2014 at 10:51 pm)Beccs Wrote: I assumed you'd have to wipe out the entire staff to keep knowledge of your actions hidden?

Oh they know. Well, they do now anyway.

This may not have been the brightest tactical move...

(April 29, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I do not want to debate Esq. I would like to appeal to the masses. For people to turn to the Lord before it is too late.

How nice of you. In the same spirit of nicety I would like to appeal to you and all the religious masses to turn to logic before it is too late and you waste your precious lives completely.

(April 29, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I do not want to debate Esq. I would like to appeal to the masses. For people to turn to the Lord before it is too late.

Consider something: right now, for a lot of people here you and your threads are little more than amusement. Those guys aren't taking you seriously, but if you and I debated? Suddenly, we're the main event, and I guarantee you that those people would show up to ostensibly watch you embarrass yourself against me.

But.

The advantage there, for you, is that you'd have the ability to clearly state your argument and message without having to deal with any mockery or distractions. You say you want to appeal to the masses? Well, here's a venue completely devoid of distractions and noise for you to get your message out. To be clear, everyone can see the debate threads just as anyone can see the regular threads; the only difference is that you're cutting out the hecklers that might impact the credibility of what you want to say, and having a debate would be noteworthy enough to drag in people that may never go into your threads otherwise.

If you're confident about the content of your arguments, then there's really nothing but advantages to you accepting my challenge.

(April 29, 2014 at 11:51 am)Kitanetos Wrote: Why does everyone want to become a mod?

Seriously. Those poor bastards have to go on dealing with nutty Matty long after the rest of us. Fortunately they do a damned good job. It could totally happen - having a xtian mod - but it would have to be someone with some perspective and tolerance. In general single-issue obsessed folks don't generally do a good job of oversight.

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(April 29, 2014 at 7:54 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: My wife thinks I am spending too much time on this site.

She is probably right. No one here is just waiting for some very sincere person to come along so that we can quit hating on god and rejoin the fold. Really. Ain't happening.

I don't think you appreciate how condescending and pretentious it is to go on advocating for your personal beliefs when you know people don't share them. It isn't as if you have legitimate evidence people need to hear. All you have is your enthusiasm. No one cares. Don't think that wanting what is best for us is an out. Thinking you know better what is best for someone else is the epitome condescension.

But since you have the gall, let me just say that your god is a cock sucking, mother fucker. I encourage him to strike me down now to defend you .. yeah, right.

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(April 29, 2014 at 7:54 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: My wife thinks I am spending too much time on this site.

She is probably right. No one here is just waiting for some very sincere person to come along so that we can quit hating on god and rejoin the fold. Really. Ain't happening.

I don't think you appreciate how condescending and pretentious it is to go on advocating for your personal beliefs when you know people don't share them. It isn't as if you have legitimate evidence people need to hear. All you have is your enthusiasm. No one cares. Don't think that wanting what is best for us is an out. Thinking you know better what is best for someone else is the epitome condescension.

But since you have the gall, let me just say that your god is a cock sucking, mother fucker. I encourage him to strike me down now to defend you .. yeah, right.

(April 30, 2014 at 12:27 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(April 29, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I do not want to debate Esq. I would like to appeal to the masses. For people to turn to the Lord before it is too late.

Consider something: right now, for a lot of people here you and your threads are little more than amusement. Those guys aren't taking you seriously, but if you and I debated? Suddenly, we're the main event, and I guarantee you that those people would show up to ostensibly watch you embarrass yourself against me.

But.

The advantage there, for you, is that you'd have the ability to clearly state your argument and message without having to deal with any mockery or distractions. You say you want to appeal to the masses? Well, here's a venue completely devoid of distractions and noise for you to get your message out. To be clear, everyone can see the debate threads just as anyone can see the regular threads; the only difference is that you're cutting out the hecklers that might impact the credibility of what you want to say, and having a debate would be noteworthy enough to drag in people that may never go into your threads otherwise.

If you're confident about the content of your arguments, then there's really nothing but advantages to you accepting my challenge.

My goal is to present 7 arguments. After that I'll reconsider your offer.

Actions speak louder than words.