(May 1, 2014 at 10:07 pm)ducketto Wrote: Do you put faith in anything or anyone but yourself?

Secular faith, certainly. Religious faith, never.

(May 1, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Cato Wrote: Please remember we are talking to someone who actually believes when he consumes a shitty tasting wafer that it literally turns into the flesh of Christ.

The Eucharist is indeed the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of our dearly beloved Lord Jesus Christ. Ye of little faith. Great observation my friend.

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(May 1, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(May 1, 2014 at 10:07 pm)ducketto Wrote: Do you put faith in anything or anyone but yourself?

Secular faith, certainly. Religious faith, never.

So your allegiance is with man? Man who is flawed and makes mistakes. Not God who is perfect, though I know you don't believe in Him.

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(May 1, 2014 at 10:31 pm)ducketto Wrote:

(May 1, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Cato Wrote: Please remember we are talking to someone who actually believes when he consumes a shitty tasting wafer that it literally turns into the flesh of Christ.

The Eucharist is indeed the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of our dearly beloved Lord Jesus Christ. Ye of little faith. Great observation my friend.

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(May 1, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Secular faith, certainly. Religious faith, never.

So your allegiance is with man? Man who is flawed and makes mistakes. Not God who is perfect, though I know you don't believe in Him.

I pray you convert and convert fast my friends, for the day of salvation is at hand. Though we know not the hour or day, we should live each day like it is our last with the utmost love of other and Christ.

(May 1, 2014 at 10:31 pm)ducketto Wrote: So your allegiance is with man?

I do consider myself a humanist.

(May 1, 2014 at 10:36 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(May 1, 2014 at 10:31 pm)ducketto Wrote: So your allegiance is with man?

I do consider myself a humanist.

Ah, then what great pride you share with the human race, who praises none other than itself for its accomplishments.

(May 1, 2014 at 10:36 pm)ducketto Wrote: Ah, then what great pride you share with the human race, who praises none other than itself for its accomplishments.

When god clearly has no hand in it, it is indeed man who should be praised.

(May 1, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(May 1, 2014 at 10:36 pm)ducketto Wrote: Ah, then what great pride you share with the human race, who praises none other than itself for its accomplishments.

When god clearly has no hand in it, it is indeed man who should be praised.

Does a truly good player only praise himself for his self-accomplishment, or the team that made it possible. For, if he stands on the field alone, he is bound to fall. We too, then, must look to the source of it all God, with a capital G.

(May 1, 2014 at 10:41 pm)ducketto Wrote: Does a truly good player only praise himself for his self-accomplishment, or the team that made it possible. For, if he stands on the field alone, he is bound to fall. We too, then, must look to the source of it all God, with a capital G.

As someone already pointed out, god is not a proper noun. Therefore, it does not need to be capitalized.

As soon as there is verifiable evidence of god's hand in anything, then I will gladly acknowledge that he actually does anything.

(May 1, 2014 at 10:48 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:

(May 1, 2014 at 10:41 pm)ducketto Wrote: Does a truly good player only praise himself for his self-accomplishment, or the team that made it possible. For, if he stands on the field alone, he is bound to fall. We too, then, must look to the source of it all God, with a capital G.

As someone already pointed out, god is not a proper noun. Therefore, it does not need to be capitalized.

As soon as there is verifiable evidence of god's hand in anything, then I will gladly acknowledge that he actually does anything.

God, that is, the Creator of Heaven and earth whom we are clearly referring to, whether or not you want to choke up the courage to stop playing around and admit it, is the master and Creator of all, how does He not have a hand in it?

(May 1, 2014 at 10:50 pm)ducketto Wrote: God, that is, the Creator of Heaven and earth whom we are clearly referring to, whether or not you want to choke up the courage to stop playing around and admit it, is the master and Creator of all, how does He not have a hand in it?

Prove it or fuck off.

(May 1, 2014 at 10:07 pm)ducketto Wrote: I don't know where your avid hate for the Church comes from. This is intended for the whole slew of you who have challenged me on this post: your entire argument is centered on sexual abuse scandals. If we go beyond that, which you all can't seem to do and call me crazy for doing, what else is there? It's like 9/11, at some point, our nation had to forgive and move beyond it all.

late 20th century: covering up child abuse, and shuffling the accused preists to other churches where they could molest yet more unsuspecting victims

early 20th century, maybe further back: imprisoning women and young girls in the "Magdele Laundries" of Ireland and elsewhere; getting their clerical outfits washed for free by their unpaid, malnourished, physically abused slaves who weren't even allowed to socialize; and putting up for adoption the babies stolen from the women who were there for premarital sex.

12th to 17th centuries: burning or lynching heretics, i.e. anyone who expressed disagreement with infallible church doctrine

...which amounts to suppression of freedom of religion and freedom of thought

15th to 16th century: The Spanish inquisition

11th to 13th century: The crusades: invading other countries and evicting or executing those who wouldn't convert