(May 30, 2014 at 3:59 pm)Harris Wrote: Religious view:
Allah is the creator of everything (including space).

Before space existed where was god?
Before there was time in what sense did god exist?

Quote: He regulates all events and actions in the universe.

So he made me an atheist why?

Quote: He determines to what extent His created beings would exist. In other words, He allocate age to every being. His creatures are time dependent, but He is not. Allah’s activities is time for His created beings. He is time Himself.

You do realise that makes no sense.

"'Intelligence,' OUT OF NOTHINGNESS!" is an apt description of God's own existence.

(June 8, 2014 at 12:53 pm)Harris Wrote: I made a call to the foam and asked for virtual particles. The answer I received was “sorry wrong number call E=MC2.”

Then the foam lied to you. Energy does not equal Mass multiplied by lightspeed doubled - E is equal to MC squared. The real quantum foam would know this.

(June 8, 2014 at 12:53 pm)Harris Wrote: Unfortunately, what you desire to hear is not a reality.

I agree.

(June 8, 2014 at 12:53 pm)Harris Wrote: There is nothing in the universe that comes into existence spontaneously.

How do you know this? Have you been everywhere in the Universe and looked behind every planet and every star?

(June 8, 2014 at 12:53 pm)Harris Wrote: Even virtual particles and even for a Nano-Second!

Hawking Radiation would llike a quick word with you.

Also, re: Kitzmiller v Dover, certain of the more prominent 'Intelligent Design' proponents actually declined from defending their pet hypothesis when given the chance to do so under oath.

(June 8, 2014 at 12:55 pm)Tea Earl Grey Hot Wrote: "'Intelligence,' OUT OF NOTHINGNESS!" is an apt description of God's own existence.

Prepare to be apolgeticised [sic].

Harris, May I direct your attention to my last question to you so that you can elucidate on a clarification of the points in question:

(May 30, 2014 at 4:14 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:

(May 30, 2014 at 4:11 pm)Harris Wrote: Please read all of my responses to Esquilax

I did, but I want clarification on how a mixture of arguments from ignorance and personal incredulity adds value to a perspective that seeks to discredit the theory of evolution.

If your first point is not conducive to your thesis, I have to ask, why did you post it?

Please explain for my benefit because I'm trying to understand what the fallacious opening your reply to esq was supposed to prove or add to the discussion.

Thanks in advance for your explanation.

Thanks for your reply.

(May 10, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Let's see...we have false dichotomy, argument from incredulity, quote mining, misunderstanding probability, and a failure to understand the implications of time not existing on the principle of cause and effect.

Did I miss anything?

Yes -- the total mass/energy of the universe is ZERO. So, this flat universe we live in could only have come from nothing. The only other thing you missed is there is no god