(June 10, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:

(June 10, 2014 at 6:18 pm)Lek Wrote: Why did you have to stop being a christian to have a thirst for knowledge? Can't christians have a thirst for knowledge? I always have.

Christians frequently have a thirst for knowledge, but this thirst rarely extends beyond attempting to find reasons to justify a belief you'll hold even though you can't honestly justify it.

Totally wrong.

(June 10, 2014 at 9:12 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Atheism sucks big hairy balls. Sorry, but it does. Personal view only you understand.

Been a few months now and so far I got zero payoff. Squat. Diddly. I preferred my comfortable lie to this ugly truth, but having unplugged, I now can't plug myself back in or unthink what I thought.

I can't even have fun debating with christians because I would not want them to lose what I lost!

I think I'm going through the kuber Ross model for Yahweh and I'm stuck on anger.

I guess it must be different for everyone depending on their experience with religion. Becoming an atheist had a huge pay off for me. I still get what you mean though. Sometimes you think how much easier life could have been if you would have never doubted in the first place. What is it that you really miss about being religious?

*hugs*

Jacob needs hugs, you're right Losty Hugs help evVerything

I feel a little taste of freedom and real hope and I love it.

I worry less about this:


And more about this:

(June 10, 2014 at 7:01 pm)Lek Wrote:

(June 10, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: Christians frequently have a thirst for knowledge, but this thirst rarely extends beyond attempting to find reasons to justify a belief you'll hold even though you can't honestly justify it.

Totally wrong.

It's all we ever see you do.

(June 10, 2014 at 6:38 pm)Lek Wrote:

(June 10, 2014 at 9:12 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Atheism sucks big hairy balls. Sorry, but it does. Personal view only you understand.

Been a few months now and so far I got zero payoff. Squat. Diddly. I preferred my comfortable lie to this ugly truth, but having unplugged, I now can't plug myself back in or unthink what I thought.

I can't even have fun debating with christians because I would not want them to lose what I lost!

I think I'm going through the kuber Ross model for Yahweh and I'm stuck on anger.

Welcome back Jacob. I missed you on the forum because your comments were usually reasonable and respectful, even if you didn't agree. Let me suggest that part of your problem is that you're looking for the point of view that causes you to receive the most benefits rather that what is the truth. Christianity isn't about what benefits you can get from it, but is about believing in and following God. We do reap benefits, but we also suffer along the way. Life is tough here and there's no escape from it. I struggle, but I receive comfort from knowing the truth and serving someone greater than myself and I look forward to something much better. Neither atheism, christianity or any other belief is going to make this world a playground. It seems apparent that your search may not be over and I do wish you the best.

Stop right there criminal scum! You have violated the law. Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence.

So sorry to hear that, Jacob. And you were the best xtian I ever met. Are you sure you can't wrap your head around an on-board other that is greater than you in some ways? I know, you still lose the eternity perspective. You also lose the ever present, totally mega-omni other as a prayer/conversation partner. Both of those are real losses for sure. Certainly atheism offers nothing close to adequate compensation.

But the truth is we don't really know just how far short of the xtian god our on-board, wiser other may fall. Certainly there are no super powers. But in terms of wisdom and insight it isn't a total loss. I really believe there is more to us than what is under our conscious control .. and I like that. (Back off skeptics! I have a key board and I'm not afraid to use it.)

(June 10, 2014 at 9:12 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Atheism sucks big hairy balls. Sorry, but it does. Personal view only you understand.

Been a few months now and so far I got zero payoff. Squat. Diddly. I preferred my comfortable lie to this ugly truth, but having unplugged, I now can't plug myself back in or unthink what I thought.

I can't even have fun debating with christians because I would not want them to lose what I lost!

I think I'm going through the kuber Ross model for Yahweh and I'm stuck on anger.

Zero payoff? How about no fear of hell? No guilt. Atheism is a partial enabler for me being able to live an awesome lifestyle. Plus Atheist girls are awesome.

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(June 10, 2014 at 7:01 pm)Lek Wrote: Totally wrong.

Totally right. Your move.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:51 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Zero payoff? How about no fear of hell? No guilt. Atheism is a partial enabler for me being able to live an awesome lifestyle. Plus Atheist girls are awesome.

For sure but they don't hold a candle to catholic girls when it comes to doing the naughty nasty. Oh the sweaty passion.

(June 11, 2014 at 8:54 pm)whateverist Wrote:

(June 11, 2014 at 8:51 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Zero payoff? How about no fear of hell? No guilt. Atheism is a partial enabler for me being able to live an awesome lifestyle. Plus Atheist girls are awesome.

For sure but they don't hold a candle to catholic girls when it comes to doing the naughty nasty. Oh the sweaty passion.

I'll have to take your word for it.