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RE: Disproving the Bible
July 7, 2014 at 4:25 pm
(July 7, 2014 at 3:10 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: (July 7, 2014 at 2:55 pm)ShaMan Wrote: The story about Abraham being asked by God to sacrifice his son
From the Quran, there is no such sacrifice, it is fake. . a simple reading the whole context and corroborated verses would reveal everything. It's about a boy who migrated with Abraham to build new places, their vision. . That is their sacrifice, and after they were expelled.
Except Genesis was written thousands of years earlier. I prefer to rely on the original text (and context) of the account and then later commented on in the first century in Hebrews.
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RE: Disproving the Bible
July 7, 2014 at 4:36 pm
Quote:I prefer to rely on the original text
And where, pray tell, is this "original text?"
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RE: Disproving the Bible
July 7, 2014 at 4:40 pm
(July 7, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:I prefer to rely on the original text
And where, pray tell, is this "original text?" ![[Image: toocloseforcomfort.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.gspellchecker.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F05%2Ftoocloseforcomfort.jpg)
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RE: Disproving the Bible
July 7, 2014 at 4:45 pm
Where did you find the wondrous Ray Comfort banana pic?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Disproving the Bible
July 7, 2014 at 4:46 pm
(July 7, 2014 at 4:45 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Where did you find the wondrous Ray Comfort banana pic? I typed "proof of god" into a Google image search.
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RE: Disproving the Bible
July 7, 2014 at 4:54 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2014 at 4:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
-what I found with the same search
![[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxLkag4mMfrJq2Kab5ltB...isE4W-w2GN]](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxLkag4mMfrJq2Kab5ltBUz4buegPNS2K21rxT0XisE4W-w2GN)
-legit.
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RE: Disproving the Bible
July 7, 2014 at 5:00 pm
(July 7, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:I prefer to rely on the original text
And where, pray tell, is this "original text?"
Mispoke. The Jews have been doing a terrific job of making copies for millennium. I was distinguishing between a commentary of a story and the actually place one can find the story.
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RE: Disproving the Bible
July 7, 2014 at 5:26 pm
(July 7, 2014 at 4:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Where might I have seen your avatar before Shaman? I got it here... 
I added it for Luckie, so I could join the illustrious Bunny Club, and I haven't changed it because I like the image.
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RE: Disproving the Bible
July 7, 2014 at 5:28 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2014 at 5:41 pm by Mudhammam.)
Welcome Stevell. Care to make an introduction thread?
(July 7, 2014 at 4:25 pm)SteveII Wrote: (July 7, 2014 at 3:10 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: From the Quran, there is no such sacrifice, it is fake. . a simple reading the whole context and corroborated verses would reveal everything. It's about a boy who migrated with Abraham to build new places, their vision. . That is their sacrifice, and after they were expelled.
Except Genesis was written thousands of years earlier. I prefer to rely on the original text (and context) of the account and then later commented on in the first century in Hebrews.
Presumably then you prefer the Epic of Gilgamesh's creation myth, as well as its version of the great flood from which the tale of Noah's ark borrowed heavily, as the former predates the Genesis account by a thousand years?
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RE: Disproving the Bible
July 7, 2014 at 6:17 pm
Quote:The Jews have been doing a terrific job of making copies for millennium.
The earliest documentary evidence we have of the OT is in Greek. It pre-dates the Dead Sea Scrolls.
This may have been an oral tradition which existed for some time prior to the Greek occupation of Judah but the reliability of oral traditions is highly doubtful.
Once the holy blinders come off the historicity of the OT takes a big hit.
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