(September 20, 2014 at 6:39 am)jesus_wept Wrote: Again, where on earth do you all get your facts from?

What the hell are you on lmao

I've been taking stupid pills to try and get down to your level.

What does everyone think of the allegations of fraud during the count?

I am a sceptic and would love nothing more than these to be debunked, the second vid just does not sit well with me at all, a sealed box being opened and flat ballots already arranged into a neat pile when you have to fold them when putting them into the ballot box.

(September 21, 2014 at 12:52 pm)Noodly1 Wrote:

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What does everyone think of the allegations of fraud during the count?

I am a sceptic and would love nothing more than these to be debunked, the second vid just does not sit well with me at all, a sealed box being opened and flat ballots already arranged into a neat pile when you have to fold them when putting them into the ballot box.

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Exactly. To have one vote on something that can potentially threaten the national security of a sovereign nation, and then have said vote be counted with in the very government who is potentially under the knife only invites mistrust in those who loose the vote. Especially when the vote is so close.

There's always allegations of fraud in these things. Allegations, by themselves, don't prove wrongdoing; that's why police have to investigate them.

(September 21, 2014 at 1:28 pm)Stimbo Wrote: There's always allegations of fraud in these things. Allegations, by themselves, don't prove wrongdoing; that's why police have to investigate them.

Apart from a petition for a recount there doesn't seem to be much going on in that respect.

(September 19, 2014 at 12:53 am)Aractus Wrote:

(September 18, 2014 at 1:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If Scotland is no longer part of the UK then the UK will be known not to include Scotland. Where's the problem?

Same problem they faced in 1919-1922 when the country was called "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland".

Though it's looking unlikely that the referendum has passed.

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(September 18, 2014 at 2:49 pm)Chas Wrote: No, I am not wrong. You are talking about some future names, not the existing ones.

The make-up of the United Kingdom will change, but it will still be the union of two kingdoms.

No, the current name of the UK is: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It was previously The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. "Great Britain" in the name refers to the physical island, it doesn't refer to the old Kingdom of GB. They voted whether to leave the UK, not GB.

Except in 1707, it became the name of the nation that joined the crowns of England/Wales and Scotland.

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(September 19, 2014 at 1:23 am)Minimalist Wrote: Looks like you Brits are going to be stuck with them.


I wish we could get Texas to vote to leave......

They tried that once. Didn't work out.

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(September 20, 2014 at 7:08 am)Aractus Wrote:

(September 20, 2014 at 4:25 am)jesus_wept Wrote: Scotland has a population of about 5.5 million, out of those about 3.6 million voted in the referendum. Which means, if my maybe is correct, about 29℅ of the population voted no. The rest either voted yes, didn't vote or were ineligible to vote.

Yes, and you nearly highlighted the problem with optional voting.

OK, so being required to vote is not a problem? Seems like something a totalitarian state would do.

Those who "didn't vote" abstained - which they are free to do.

(September 21, 2014 at 12:52 pm)Noodly1 Wrote: What does everyone think of the allegations of fraud during the count?

I am a sceptic and would love nothing more than these to be debunked, the second vid just does not sit well with me at all, a sealed box being opened and flat ballots already arranged into a neat pile when you have to fold them when putting them into the ballot box.

In any honest election there are always sore losers.

Only in totally rigged elections where the winner gets 100% of the vote are all the sore losers shot before they can complain of irregularities.

As if the underhand and blatant tactics weren't bad enough lol. I'm very skeptical of the fraud allegations.

(September 21, 2014 at 6:57 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: As if the underhand and blatant tactics weren't bad enough lol. I'm very skeptical of the fraud allegations.

What in your opinion is going on in the videos? The already stacked ballots from a sealed ballot box sets of alarm bells for me.