Yes, I was missing your question. Mainly because I wasn't addressing you. Thanks for the rudeness though. I'll add it to the pile with all the rest. Goodbye and good luck.

(October 3, 2014 at 6:06 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Yes, I was missing your question. Mainly because I wasn't addressing you. Thanks for the rudeness though. I'll add it to the pile with all the rest. Goodbye and good luck.

For goodness sake... stop being a drama queen... I didn't mean to offend.... If I did I apologise!

The world is full or much more shite , let's not fall out over semantics and opinion !!

(October 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm)lifesagift Wrote:

(October 3, 2014 at 6:01 pm)oukoida Wrote: My two cents:
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a nonlinear, nonsubjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey... Stuff."

Thanks for that !! lol... care to consider why no one has come back from the infinite future and built you a diamond the size of a brick out of seaweed?

I quoted Doctor Who because with our current understanding of physics, anything regarding time travel is useless speculation, and it's better left to science fiction. We don't even know if the future is infinite.

Ok, so my question is moot ! and Dr Who rules !! no probs.

(October 3, 2014 at 5:20 pm)lifesagift Wrote:

(October 3, 2014 at 5:16 pm)pocaracas Wrote: If you go back in time and kill your grandfather before he was born.... how can you be born and then go back in time to kill him? If you're not born, then you don't kill him, so he lives and has kids and you're born and you kill him... and so on, and so on... and so on!
That's a paradox!

Ok, well that's a given, but let's go 1 million years into the future...

Are you with me? we've found a formula for paradox, and if you replace y with lemon, you can go back and kill your granddad !


Not sure your argument stands up now?!! unless you can convince me otherwise?

Sci-fi is fun...
You can't solve the paradox.

All of this presumes that time is linear and only 'moves' in the manner we are currently able to perceive it. The premise is flawed.

There is no past or future, only now. People have not traveled from the future to our time because they don't exist yet. When they do exist we won't anymore.

(October 3, 2014 at 7:34 pm)ShaMan Wrote: All of this presumes that time is linear and only 'moves' in the manner we are currently able to perceive it. The premise is flawed.

(October 3, 2014 at 8:00 pm)KUSA Wrote: There is no past or future, only now. People have not traveled from the future to our time because they don't exist yet. When they do exist we won't anymore.

HEY YOU TWO. CUT IT OUT!!
Nerd in the room remember. I plan to read many time travel stories in the future and if I won't be able to enjoy them as well as I should if I continue to listen to this and then I'm gonna blame you two.

Nanana I'm not listening .

(October 3, 2014 at 6:13 pm)oukoida Wrote: I quoted Doctor Who because with our current understanding of physics, anything regarding time travel is useless speculation, and it's better left to science fiction. We don't even know if the future is infinite.

Some of the time scales for events that can logically be anticipated to occur in the future are staggeringly large.

Evaporating large blackholes (billion solar mass ones) takes a very long time. Currently, all of them in the universe are still growing, and we have to wait a VERY long time for the universe to thin out enough so that the Hawking evaporation process can even start working. And early on in that process, it is REALLY slow about dissipating a REALLY BIG blackhole.

And recall, over this EXTREMELY long period of time, the universe is still expanding very rapidly. This serves to dilute further and further all the stuff in the universe. Volumes of space enormously bigger than our universe is now might contain only a single extremely feeble photon. And the universe will continue to expand enormously past that state.


Something else that takes a very long time is for our suns' (or whatever burned out hulk it becomes) orbit around the center of our galaxy to decay due to gravitational radiation. A REALLY long time.

(October 2, 2014 at 7:25 pm)lifesagift Wrote: In 4345 time travel is de rigueur....so, why hasn't anyone from the 44th century visited me today?

We don't tend to mingle much. Besides, what exactly do you have to offer?