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Ok,bear with me.
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#21
RE: Ok,bear with me.
October 3, 2014 at 6:06 pm
Yes, I was missing your question. Mainly because I wasn't addressing you. Thanks for the rudeness though. I'll add it to the pile with all the rest. Goodbye and good luck.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#22
RE: Ok,bear with me.
October 3, 2014 at 6:09 pm
(October 3, 2014 at 6:06 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Yes, I was missing your question. Mainly because I wasn't addressing you. Thanks for the rudeness though. I'll add it to the pile with all the rest. Goodbye and good luck.

For goodness sake... stop being a drama queen... I didn't mean to offend.... If I did I apologise!

The world is full or much more shite , let's not fall out over semantics and opinion !!
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#23
RE: Ok,bear with me.
October 3, 2014 at 6:13 pm
(October 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm)lifesagift Wrote:
(October 3, 2014 at 6:01 pm)oukoida Wrote: My two cents:
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a nonlinear, nonsubjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey... Stuff."

Thanks for that !! lol... care to consider why no one has come back from the infinite future and built you a diamond the size of a brick out of seaweed?

I quoted Doctor Who because with our current understanding of physics, anything regarding time travel is useless speculation, and it's better left to science fiction. We don't even know if the future is infinite.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.

Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.

Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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#24
RE: Ok,bear with me.
October 3, 2014 at 6:15 pm
Ok, so my question is moot ! and Dr Who rules !! no probs.
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#25
RE: Ok,bear with me.
October 3, 2014 at 7:28 pm
(October 3, 2014 at 5:20 pm)lifesagift Wrote:
(October 3, 2014 at 5:16 pm)pocaracas Wrote: If you go back in time and kill your grandfather before he was born.... how can you be born and then go back in time to kill him? If you're not born, then you don't kill him, so he lives and has kids and you're born and you kill him... and so on, and so on... and so on!
That's a paradox!


Ok, well that's a given, but let's go 1 million years into the future...

Are you with me? we've found a formula for paradox, and if you replace y with lemon, you can go back and kill your granddad !


Not sure your argument stands up now?!! unless you can convince me otherwise?

Sci-fi is fun...
You can't solve the paradox.
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RE: Ok,bear with me.
October 3, 2014 at 7:34 pm
All of this presumes that time is linear and only 'moves' in the manner we are currently able to perceive it. The premise is flawed.
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RE: Ok,bear with me.
October 3, 2014 at 8:00 pm
There is no past or future, only now. People have not traveled from the future to our time because they don't exist yet. When they do exist we won't anymore.
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RE: Ok,bear with me.
October 3, 2014 at 8:19 pm
(October 3, 2014 at 7:34 pm)ShaMan Wrote: All of this presumes that time is linear and only 'moves' in the manner we are currently able to perceive it. The premise is flawed.
(October 3, 2014 at 8:00 pm)KUSA Wrote: There is no past or future, only now. People have not traveled from the future to our time because they don't exist yet. When they do exist we won't anymore.
HEY YOU TWO. CUT IT OUT!!
Nerd in the room remember. I plan to read many time travel stories in the future and if I won't be able to enjoy them as well as I should if I continue to listen to this and then I'm gonna blame you two.

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RE: Ok,bear with me.
October 3, 2014 at 11:59 pm
(October 3, 2014 at 6:13 pm)oukoida Wrote: I quoted Doctor Who because with our current understanding of physics, anything regarding time travel is useless speculation, and it's better left to science fiction. We don't even know if the future is infinite.


Some of the time scales for events that can logically be anticipated to occur in the future are staggeringly large.

Evaporating large blackholes (billion solar mass ones) takes a very long time. Currently, all of them in the universe are still growing, and we have to wait a VERY long time for the universe to thin out enough so that the Hawking evaporation process can even start working. And early on in that process, it is REALLY slow about dissipating a REALLY BIG blackhole.

And recall, over this EXTREMELY long period of time, the universe is still expanding very rapidly. This serves to dilute further and further all the stuff in the universe. Volumes of space enormously bigger than our universe is now might contain only a single extremely feeble photon. And the universe will continue to expand enormously past that state.


Something else that takes a very long time is for our suns' (or whatever burned out hulk it becomes) orbit around the center of our galaxy to decay due to gravitational radiation. A REALLY long time.
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#30
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October 4, 2014 at 1:59 am
(October 2, 2014 at 7:25 pm)lifesagift Wrote: In 4345 time travel is de rigueur....so, why hasn't anyone from the 44th century visited me today?

We don't tend to mingle much. Besides, what exactly do you have to offer?
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