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Doctor Who season eight
#41
RE: Doctor Who season eight
How's this for an original one lol (skip to 57 seconds if it doesn't do that already):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgMM1eJCvB4#t=57

I'm not sure where he got the audio from (the video is definitely fake), but the polygons are definitely from entirely separate videos edited together.
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#42
RE: Doctor Who season eight
Okay - my take on the last two episodes ...

LAZY storytelling, once again.

SEXIST Moffat, once again.

SPOILERS ...

Okay so the moon episode - tell me again how a baby just born lays an egg the size of its own egg? Tell me again how such a creature possible could have evolved (if it takes billions of years to develop as an embryo)? Tell me again why they aren't worried about the giant bacteria - which are very much alive and thus can cope with extreme heat and cold (as is present on the moon) - when considering their "decision"? Tell me again why the weak pathetic female is upset that the male left and made her make a decision? Tell me again who the other two characters that died quickly were??

The episode was actually OK, until it came to the lazy, sexist, goddamn annoying stuff mentioned above.

The last episode - Mummy on the Orient Express - in a word: terrible.

1. Why is there no Missy in this or the previous episode? She's supposed to be collecting victims Doctor Who fails to save!
2. Why show the mummy so much??
3. LAZY GODDAMN WRITING: If the computer has stopped Doctor Who accessing the Tardis then how does he access it at the end of the episode??? In a word: PLOT HOLE.
4. Clara and the other annoying female locked away together for very little reason - why? It was stupid!
5. Why does all the apparently exciting stuff at the end of the episode - where Doctor Who saves everyone - happen off screen?? LAZY WRITING!
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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#43
RE: Doctor Who season eight
Couldn't agree more!
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

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#44
RE: Doctor Who season eight
In my view, the only really decent episode was Time Heist. Self-contained, few if any loose ends, ditto plot holes (based on a single, remembered viewing; I could stand correcting). All in all, one of the few in recent years that I would be happy to call Doctor Who.

The biggest disappointment was Listen. It was building up to really nice potential. Things happening by something unseen. The moment when Clara and young Danny were under the bed and it dipped as the 'thing' appeared in it was genuinely creepy. The sequence with the shape under the sheet ranks as one of the scariest scenes in the series' history. But then - nothing. It just stopped and was never developed or even mentioned again. It was as though Stephen King wrote it. And that ending was the biggest non sequitur imaginable.

I quite liked Mummy, for the most part. Maybe it was Frank Skinner, by far the most believable character next to the captain. Also the Doctor's apparent using of the humans was very Sapphire And Steel. But again, that ending. "With one bound he was free. And they all lived happily ever after."

As you say, lazy.

Capaldi's Doctor is refreshingly alien and ambiguous, however. And occasionally, even if accidentally, channelling Tom Baker through the voice.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#45
RE: Doctor Who season eight
I don't like what they've done to the doctor, he's just a sociopath now. I used to enjoy how human he was.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#46
RE: Doctor Who season eight
Again, I think it's harkening back to Tom Baker, that alien side of him that regarded the tragic body of Laurence Scarman with the observation that "his late brother must have called" before admiring the Osirian technology laid out in front of him. Possibly with a streak of Sylv McCoy in the way the other characters are regarded as objects to an end.

Or it's just a coincidence.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#47
RE: Doctor Who season eight
Here's the issue I have - again it's all about the laziness. In the last episode - Flatline - all information is once again force-fed to the audience by dialogue. None of it is communicated through interesting and clever scenes or from the depth of the story. Ultimately this story is as two-dimensional as the monsters in it.

SPOILERS...

For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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#48
RE: Doctor Who season eight
If there is one thing that we can take away from this thread, it's that the writing has gone downhill.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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#49
RE: Doctor Who season eight
Yeah, Flatliners was crazy overwritten, now that I think about it. Too much telling versus not enough showing, which seems to be a problem this series in particular has a lot of.

Regarding Missy, she falls into the same trap that Doctor Who arc villains have been falling victim to ever since the series got revived; nothing ever happens with them until the finale happens. These little scenes with her are supposed to be building tension and intrigue over who she is, but since I know the formula I have no reason to buy into that at all. Nothing of significance will happen surrounding that character until the last two episodes of the series, and potentially the last few minutes of the one before that. Since this has been the case for years, I can happily discard the teaser scenes with Missy as a waste of time, a pointless little bit of "mystery box" writing that thinks that deliberately withholding information is the same thing as giving the audience a puzzle to be solved.

A decent mystery gives the audience something to help piece the puzzle together before the reveal happens on screen. But there's no content in any of Missy's scenes, just a lot of fragmented scenes that lack any context. What am I supposed to make of that, and if I can't make anything out of it, why the hell are they bothering to include it?
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#50
RE: Doctor Who season eight
I think they ought to have quit these 'arc' things after the Bad Wolf one. Those little easter eggs actually got viewers hooked, in fact they were so subtle they had to have Eccles mention them at one point so people would notice. Then of course came the denouement, when all the stuffing fell out of it.

Since then, everyone's been expecting it. Unfortunately, it's not a trick you can pull off constantly.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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