(October 27, 2014 at 9:38 pm)Rokchan Wrote: Calendar.
Kinda funny that USA have sabbath (The day of rest) as the 7th day on Saturday - Jewish Tradition
While in Europe it is Sunday that is the 7th day. And Sunday according to christian tradition is when he ressurected.

(October 28, 2014 at 9:56 am)vorlon13 Wrote: I'm not saying most US christers aren't worshipping on a sabbath.

I'm just saying they aren't worshipping on the sabbath. And there doesn't seem to be any scriptural justification for their transgression.

It just goes back to how fucked up the christers are. If they can't even manage to go to church on the right day of the week, you gotta wonder what else they are screwing up.

There wouldn't be much justification to switch the worship day except maybe one of the fucking 10 commandments.

(October 28, 2014 at 10:10 am)vorlon13 Wrote: The Jews have been keeping track of days and weeks since Moses, and it is clear for the believers that Moses brought the 10 Commandments from god. Celebrating sabbath on the wrong day would have to be a major cock up in the eyes of god since there is a commandment on the subject.

I'm thinking worshipping on Sunday is actually to the glory of another god. Probably Baal, or Zeus.

(October 27, 2014 at 5:42 pm)Rokchan Wrote: The only thing that does apply is "The Ten Commandments" which is spoken humbly about in the new testament. So that is one exception.

(October 27, 2014 at 7:40 pm)Rokchan Wrote: Oh yes. The classic i didn't come to destroy it. Of course not, its still there. Its just that it doesnt count. Because the old is void due to new covenant, when he died, boom. You are saved by Christ, as St.Paul was sent by Jesus. So its all there in christianity "What it teaches". Nice try though

(October 27, 2014 at 5:42 pm)Rokchan Wrote:

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I always hear. Oh jeez, the old testament is so horrible.

Giving virgin single woman to a rapist in exchange for some fees.
Or
Stoning people. Oh no the horrors
Atheists are the ones who always likes to go into old testament and ask why dont christians follow that.
Its kinda funny seeing how ignorant atheists are. That they dont know what christians practice.
Well the fact is that christians are told not to obey the law of moses clearly in the new testament. So even if Jesus said he came not to destroy the law but fulfill it. Thats more in a past present. When he died it was fulfilled. So the law of moses is hereby numb.

Here is proof why christians dont practice animal sacrifice or any of the jewish laws handed by moses
The only thing that does apply is "The Ten Commandments" which is spoken humbly about in the new testament. So that is one exception.

So you might attack them for not following the all so lovely "Graven image" but they might wuss off it with saying "Idols". And you can also attack them for giving women rights. The new testament obviously want women to not teach in public. Oh and slavery

"For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." Romans 6:14.

Christians are ”dead to the law." Romans 7:4.

"If ye be led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law" Galatians 5:18.

Christians are "delivered from the law." Romans 7:6.

"Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster “ [the law]. Galatians 3:24-25.

For Christians, the Law is "that which is done away." II Corinthians 3:11.

For Christians, the Law is "that which is abolished." II Corinthians 3:13.

For Christians, Jesus, on the Cross, was "blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us." Colossians 2:14.

For Christians, the Law is taken "out of the way" and nailed "to his cross." Colossians 2:14.

"When God speaks of a new [covenant or agreement], He makes the first one obsolete (out of use). And what is obsolete (out of use and annulled because of age) is ripe for disappearance and to be dispensed with altogether." Hebrews 8:13, The Amplified Version

"And after that he said, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. Thus he put an end to the first in order to establish the second." Hebrews 10:9, Lamsa Translation

Source: http://www.gaychristian101.com/Christian...#placename

Read and weep

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(October 28, 2014 at 8:37 am)ChadWooters Wrote:

(October 27, 2014 at 9:38 pm)Rokchan Wrote: Calendar.
Kinda funny that USA have sabbath (The day of rest) as the 7th day on Saturday - Jewish Tradition
While in Europe it is Sunday that is the 7th day. And Sunday according to christian tradition is when he ressurected.

Sabbath is and always has been on Saturday. Sunday is the first day of the week and is celebrated as the Lord's day, because, since the first advent, our rest is now in the Lord.

Quote:The 'jot or tittle' passage from Matthew is regarded as referring to the Categories of non-Sacrificial Law; none of those would cease to exist. Jesus did make some changes to Moral & Penal Law (e.g. "He who is without sin, cast the first stone", "Turn the other cheek", "Judge not, lest ye be judged", "Do unto others...") however he didn't change any of the laws regarding slavery (which fall under Penal Law) neither did he make any changes to Marriage Law or Dietary Law (Christians should still avoid pork, shellfish etc.).

(October 28, 2014 at 10:47 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Doesn't matter from the atheist perspective whether Moses existed or not. The Christers do so 'believe', and it is beholden upon them as a consequence of that belief that they follow it to the very last jot and tittle.

We've seen a steady stream of supposed christers come to AF to 'convert' us, and yet it appears each and every one of them is a blasphemer, apostate, backslider, heretic, defector, deserter, dissenter, nonconformist or renegade.

Kinda disappointing, actually, that we can note the 'beams' in the eyes of the True Believers that drop by, but they can't.