Quote:So then we must assume life form 1.1 could exist, therefore can not be ruled out of existence.

And as soon as you have EVIDENCE of same please come back and let us know.

You know, over the weekend I was thinking how much fun it could be to post all of this sort of nonsense and see what sort of reaction I would get - kinda trolling (assurances to Admin: I wouldn't do that).

But I see I don't have to do. And, frankly, I don't think I could come up with this level of ignorance.

Fucking hell! Who's been taking apart our atheism? Damned vandals.

(November 2, 2014 at 3:55 pm)Beccs Wrote: You know, over the weekend I was thinking how much fun it could be to post all of this sort of nonsense and see what sort of reaction I would get - kinda trolling (assurances to Admin: I wouldn't do that).

But I see I don't have to do. And, frankly, I don't think I could come up with this level of ignorance.

It is literally hard to conceive how one could make any worse use of a functioning human brain.

Were I more of a cynic I might take issue with your use of the term "functioning".

(November 2, 2014 at 3:57 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(November 2, 2014 at 3:55 pm)Beccs Wrote: You know, over the weekend I was thinking how much fun it could be to post all of this sort of nonsense and see what sort of reaction I would get - kinda trolling (assurances to Admin: I wouldn't do that).

But I see I don't have to do. And, frankly, I don't think I could come up with this level of ignorance.

It is literally hard to conceive how one could make any worse use of a functioning human brain.

Well I'm sure he'll prove us wrong in time and post something even more ridiculous.

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: Let me first define true atheism

Atheism is a complete and total rejection of all theistic claims. If theists assert God (creator of the universe and all life in it) does exist, atheists must assert the contrary , i.e. God does not exist. The only middle ground in this true dichotomy is agnosticism (undecided), which is not true atheism.

So what are those who call themselves agnostic atheists?
And agnostic theists?
hmmm.... something is missing in your definitions, huh?

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: The Incremental Intelligence Theorem

A.We have observable empirical evidence of a wide range of sentient life, all with varying degrees of intelligence/attributes, existing here on earth

With you, so far.

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: B.Therefore a wide range of sentient life, all with varying degrees of intelligence/attributes existing elsewhere in the universe, including other possible dimensions, is a logical possibility and can not be ruled out

Possibility, yes.
The Force is a logical possibility.
Harry Potter, too.
The Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy is another.
Want me to keep going?

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: Therefore If A is true then B is logically possible and can not be rejected

Of course... nor any of the others!

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: Atheists will easily accept the existence of a sentient life form (lets call it life form 1.1) that is 1% superior in intelligence to humans, and they will accept this possibility by blind faith using nothing more than logical inferences.

errr.... I'll accept it is possible, ok... but I say nothing about it's actual existence.... I don't know.

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: So then we must assume life form 1.1 could exist, therefore can not be ruled out of existence. And life form 1.1 would also logically assume the possible existence of life form 1.2., and life form 1.2 would also logically assume the possible existence of life form 1.3 etc. etc.

And at every step along the way an intelligent life form that is 1% superior in intelligence/attributes can logically & rationally exist from the perspective of the life form that is 1% inferior, and at no point along the way does this chain of slightly superior life forms become an irrational concept (i.e flying spaghetti monsters) from the perspective of the preceding slightly less intelligent life form. Therefore in this chain of logically possible life forms, the existence of life form 100000^100000 (i.e creator of the universe, thus God) becomes as logical a concept as life form 1.1 is.

Is the Universe large enough to accommodate that many intelligences?
Perhaps... but your chances are dwindling, here...

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: The concept of a God-like intelligence is only rejected by narrow minded subjective atheists that are incapable of mentally grasping the existence of BIG LIFE, when in fact there is no rational, logical or mathematical basis to reject a God-like intelligence from existing. Just as single celled organisms and trillion celled organisms have the same mathematical chances of existing , humans and a God-like sentience also have the same mathematical chances of existing

Mathematical chances?
What is a God-like intelligence and a God-like sentience?
Also, define existing!

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: Understand, the "SIZE OF INTELLIGENCE" has absolutely no relevance what so ever to the potential existence of a sentient life form. Therefore unimaginably small life has the exact same chances of existing as unimaginably big life does as far as logic is concerned, and the IIT proves it at every incremental step.

Once the atheist opens the door of possibility to the existence of life form 1.1, he then must produce a reason to stop this incremental intelligence from reaching Godhood in a stepwise fashion. And the atheist can never produce a valid reason to stop the progression of this incremental intelligence other than he can't mentally comprehend a God-like intelligence existing. Therefore the atheist is forced to compare the concept of God to absurd concepts like flying spaghetti monsters to justify his reasoning in what should be a perfectly logical concept.

What is a god-like intelligence?!
Are you saying your god is an alien?
I must be missing something...

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: Atheists illogically and irrationally put a cap on the intelligence/attribute levels of all life that can possibly exist, and do so without ever giving an explanation why a God-like intelligence can not exist or is highly unlikely to exist. In fact the only logical reason someone has to put a cap on the intelligence levels in the universe, is if a life form knows all that can be possibly be known, thus is all knowing and can't know any more

Have you ever seen an entity that knows all that you know?
I haven't! So whichever creature you're talking about, still has something more to know... to think about...

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: Therefore true atheism (not agnosticism) is an illogical concept

Yep... of course!
True afaerism (disbelievers in faeries, little flying hominids) is also an illogical concept.
True aghostism is also illogical.
True aunicornism is also illogical.
True aDarthVaderism is also illogical.

Please, let me stop here... it'd take forever to list all the illogical true a-isms.

There's a slim chance any of them exist, including your preferred god... and all other gods mankind has ever conjured up.... but my life doesn't run on slim chances.
I'd like to know why does yours?

(November 2, 2014 at 3:56 pm)whateverist Wrote: Fucking hell! Who's been taking apart our atheism? Damned vandals.

Those fuckers left it up on blocks,and now we have to walk.

I got the CD changer. And the Garfield.

(October 31, 2014 at 9:38 pm)IDScience Wrote: B.Therefore a wide range of sentient life, all with varying degrees of intelligence/attributes existing elsewhere in the universe, including other possible dimensions, is a logical possibility and can not be ruled out

Except, of course, that thought has brains and super beings are human ideals from mythology.