(November 7, 2014 at 3:10 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: He's not interested in any sort of honest discussion Esqui.

Nor am I, with him; he has nothing cogent to say, after all. But batting around imbeciles is a fun game, and it reduces the risk of someone else being suckered in by this moron's intellectual black hole of an argument.

(November 7, 2014 at 2:36 pm)dimaniac Wrote: If you believe in passing on your genes(as many atheists do) then rape can be logically justified

Let's hear this logical justification then...

(November 7, 2014 at 3:22 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(November 7, 2014 at 2:36 pm)dimaniac Wrote: If you believe in passing on your genes(as many atheists do) then rape can be logically justified

Let's hear this logical justification then...

Be careful what you ask for. Major diarrhea erruption coming up.

Quote:And if you want an exclusively evolutionary argument why rape is wrong, I can give you that too: the mother of your child is more likely to allow it to develop and survive to childbirth, plus nurture it in an environment that better equips it to survive in the world, if the child was conceived as a part of a consensual, loving relationship. It's the reason why parent couples are so common in our evolved child rearing strategy.

Serial rapists have higher chance of passing on genes than a father of two.

Quote:This literally means nothing.

That means that if you cant support a family for cultural/economic reasons(e.g. Japan) then rape is your only option.

(November 7, 2014 at 3:26 pm)abaris Wrote: Be careful what you ask for. Major diarrhea erruption coming up.

May as well let him dig his own grave.

(November 7, 2014 at 3:28 pm)dimaniac Wrote: Serial rapists have higher chance of passing on genes than a father of two.

Only if they rape Christians - sane ladies will just abort.

(November 7, 2014 at 2:59 pm)dimaniac Wrote:

Quote:Of course, you have a valid and sound logical argument that gets you from "it is desirable to pass along one's genes" to "rape is morally justifiable", yes?

It is not just desirable, it is the meaning of life.

Fail.

(November 7, 2014 at 3:28 pm)dimaniac Wrote:

Quote:And if you want an exclusively evolutionary argument why rape is wrong, I can give you that too: the mother of your child is more likely to allow it to develop and survive to childbirth, plus nurture it in an environment that better equips it to survive in the world, if the child was conceived as a part of a consensual, loving relationship. It's the reason why parent couples are so common in our evolved child rearing strategy.

Serial rapists have higher chance of passing on genes than a father of two.

Quote:This literally means nothing.

That means that if you cant support a family for cultural/economic reasons(e.g. Japan) then rape is your only option.

None of this gets you to moral justification.

Fail.

(November 7, 2014 at 3:38 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: None of this gets you to moral justification.

Fail.

Nor is it even true.

(November 7, 2014 at 3:10 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: He's not interested in any sort of honest discussion Esqui.

Asshats like dim rarely are.