(November 21, 2014 at 8:21 pm)A Theist Wrote:

Oh please please please please please please. You couldn't help a Democratic challenger more if you didn't bother running a candidate at all.

(November 21, 2014 at 11:03 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Well, let's look at the record.

1. No president before this one has ever been heckled during a State of the Union address by a sitting Congressman, who in turn was lauded as a hero for doing so.

It does not follow that if one is heckled it is because one is black.

(November 21, 2014 at 11:03 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: 2. No president before this one has ever been forced to produce his birth certificate to prove "he's one of us".

It does not follow that if ones eligibility is challenged it is because one is black.

(November 21, 2014 at 11:03 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: 3. No president before this one has ever faced such intense Congressional resistance to the point of sabotage. The House has a record low number of bills passed while the Senate has broken records on the filibuster use.

It does not follow that if congress gridlocks it is because the President is black.

You have three non-sequiturs. The non-sequiturs don't go away simply because you put three of them together. When the left blames the problems you just described on the color of the presidents skin.....they really look like idiots. I hear that claim and the first thing I think is "what a moron".

(November 21, 2014 at 11:36 pm)Heywood Wrote: It does not follow

It does not follow that you seem otherwise intelligent except for when it comes to matters of politics and religion.

So basically woody's response too "the president is being attacked unreasonably by white Christians simply because he's black" is: "shutup your a stupid poopey pants booger face"

I'd expect this kind of decorum from the Palin family but not u Almighty Heywood lol

(November 21, 2014 at 11:36 pm)Heywood Wrote: You have three non-sequiturs.

So you think it's all a coincidence, then? You think the appalling and unprecedented disrespect for the president, the near-psychotic resistance to the point of harming the country, the unreasonable demands that he prove he's "one of us" (wink wink) just happened out of nowhere and has some other cause or is just random?

(November 22, 2014 at 1:37 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: So you think it's all a coincidence, then? You think the appalling and unprecedented disrespect for the president, the near-psychotic resistance to the point of harming the country, the unreasonable demands that he prove he's "one of us" (wink wink) just happened out of nowhere and has some other cause or is just random?

I think you are a racist for blaming all those national problems on the color of Barack Obama's skin.

You're basically saying, "If only Barack Obama was white....we wouldn't have gridlock.....If only Barack Obama was white....we wouldn't have heckling.....If only Barack Obama was white....we wouldn't have a birther movement".

Your position is ludicrous.

The great thing is that it's all legal. The executive has prosecutorial discretion, that's very well established law.

NewRepublic Wrote:The president’s broad prosecutorial discretion has been repeatedly recognized by the courts. In 2013, Judge Brett Kavanaugh of the D.C. Circuit, appointed by George W. Bush, offered a strong defense: “The president may decline to prosecute certain violators of federal law just as the president may pardon certain violators of federal law,” Judge Kavanaugh wrote. “The president may decline to prosecute or may pardon because of the president’s own constitutional concerns about a law or because of policy objections to the law, among other reasons.”

So...

How's that petard?

(November 22, 2014 at 1:56 am)Jaysyn Wrote: The great thing is that it's all legal. The executive has prosecutorial discretion, that's very well established law.

NewRepublic Wrote:The president’s broad prosecutorial discretion has been repeatedly recognized by the courts. In 2013, Judge Brett Kavanaugh of the D.C. Circuit, appointed by George W. Bush, offered a strong defense: “The president may decline to prosecute certain violators of federal law just as the president may pardon certain violators of federal law,” Judge Kavanaugh wrote. “The president may decline to prosecute or may pardon because of the president’s own constitutional concerns about a law or because of policy objections to the law, among other reasons.”

So...

How's that petard?

If he is changing the criteria upon which papers and work authorizations are granted then he is not on such a firm legal footing.

Anyways, Obama is taking prosecutorial discretion to a whole new level and I think Penn Jillete explains why you should not be happy.

(November 21, 2014 at 9:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Oh, Lookee here....Woodie and Adolf have found a negro that they like.

Well.....how bout dem apples!

...and lookee here! David Duke is out of the closet! "negros"? "...how bout dem"? Minimalist, the Imperial racist Wizard, himself!


You're just a bit too comfortable throwing around racial slurs to not be a racist prick. You racist prick.

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(November 21, 2014 at 11:03 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:

(November 21, 2014 at 9:42 pm)Heywood Wrote: I was being sarcastic to show how stupid liberals are when they claim the right hates Obama because he is black.

Well, let's look at the record.

1. No president before this one has ever been heckled during a State of the Union address by a sitting Congressman, who in turn was lauded as a hero for doing so.

2. No president before this one has ever been forced to produce his birth certificate to prove "he's one of us".

3. No president before this one has ever faced such intense Congressional resistance to the point of sabotage. The House has a record low number of bills passed while the Senate has broken records on the filibuster use.

So, two possibilities:

A. All three are just coincidences about the first black president of the USA.
B. There's a lot of racism in the Obama Derangement Syndrome.

....or, they just don't like barack's policies. Has nothing to do with your conspiracy theories of racism.

(November 22, 2014 at 1:54 am)Heywood Wrote:

(November 22, 2014 at 1:37 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: So you think it's all a coincidence, then? You think the appalling and unprecedented disrespect for the president, the near-psychotic resistance to the point of harming the country, the unreasonable demands that he prove he's "one of us" (wink wink) just happened out of nowhere and has some other cause or is just random?

You're basically saying, "If only Barack Obama was white....we wouldn't have gridlock.....If only Barack Obama was white....we wouldn't have heckling.....If only Barack Obama was white....we wouldn't have a birther movement".

Well your point is well taken. I'm pretty sure the republican party would do everything in their power to thwart any and all efforts to govern on the part of the democratic party. It wouldn't matter if the democratic party adopted each and every plank of the republican party. The republican party is dedicated to nothing being accomplished under the watch of a democratically controlled government. Period.

Even after their recent success at the polls, the petulant republican party with majorities in both houses expects the democratic party to cater to them in order to get them to govern responsibly. You'd think they'd want to show that government can work now that they've gotten more control. But in the matter of Obama's recent executive action in regards to illegal aliens the republicans would prefer to pout unless the other party encourages them to do the responsible thing by giving them their way. Fuck them.