(December 10, 2014 at 8:46 pm)Drich Wrote: It would be a void, pit, emptiness, nothing... Hell.

But it is a world without god and it is nothing like that.

(December 10, 2014 at 9:04 pm)Sionnach Wrote:

(December 10, 2014 at 8:46 pm)Drich Wrote: It would be a void, pit, emptiness, nothing... Hell.

But it is a world without god and it is nothing like that.

a world with god would be more...chaotic...

I would suggest quitting the habit of posturing as a debate tactic. When using the tactics of feigned ignorance or obfuscation, a debate win is still a theological loss.

(December 10, 2014 at 9:36 pm)Brakeman Wrote: I would suggest quitting the habit of posturing as a debate tactic. When using the tactics of feigned ignorance or obfuscation, a debate win is still a theological loss.

Who me or the OP?

The OP.

(December 10, 2014 at 11:04 pm)Brakeman Wrote: The OP.

alright

(December 10, 2014 at 7:49 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(December 10, 2014 at 7:35 pm)Godschild Wrote: Zip, zilch, nothing, complete and absolute nothing.

GC

wrong it will still be the same existence except one universe has a being that made it we live in a universe that created itself.

Only a mind can create.

GC

(December 11, 2014 at 1:00 am)Godschild Wrote:

(December 10, 2014 at 7:49 pm)dyresand Wrote: wrong it will still be the same existence except one universe has a being that made it we live in a universe that created itself.

Only a mind can create.

GC

there is faults with that the universe did create itself everything is just a byproduct of the universe creating itself self in the objects in it. seriously the big bang did not require a god molecules forming together to make matter didn't need a god. nature works on its own without something or some one to tell it how to form stuff.

(December 9, 2014 at 5:15 am)Godschild Wrote:

(December 9, 2014 at 5:07 am)robvalue Wrote: Clam shells and dark matter? Is that what we've become? I long for the old days of swords, blood, the ripe smell of dashed babies. You could do what you want, kill who you like, and if you lived long enough you could write whatever you want about it and it would be true.

I'm assuming you have no answer for the clam shell or dark matter.

GC

Theoretical inference =/= making shit up and assuming it's real because you want it to be (god[s]).

What you're presenting here, GC, as your defence is just a god of the gaps. If/when dark matter is evidenced, where then will your version of your God hide next, I wonder?

(December 11, 2014 at 1:00 am)Godschild Wrote:

(December 10, 2014 at 7:49 pm)dyresand Wrote: wrong it will still be the same existence except one universe has a being that made it we live in a universe that created itself.

Only a mind can create.

GC

Other people had good comments. Also you point-out that atheism doesn't have all the answers. Atheism doesn't claim to have all the answers. Atheism says don't make something up when you don't know the answer. Christianity is making things up, and those things are not even plausible to people who weren't indoctrinated to believe them.