Losty ; How old were you when you got your dick tattooed?
How have you convinced any women(or men, I'm not sure about your orientation) to let you put your swastika in their body?
Was this like gang initiation or a dare or why?
Why don't you get the arm one covered up or removed?


I was about 30 years old when I got the tattoo on my dick.

I have been with men and women over the years and none of them ever asked me about the tattoo.

I usually wear shits that cover the swastika on my upper arm.

When I first got the tattoo's I was more or less a neo-Nazi , but that was years ago, no one here seems to care about the tattoo, so I don't care about it.

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(January 2, 2015 at 11:58 pm)Losty Wrote: Hmm...I feel like I'm missing some key information. I have 7 people on my list, 8 including myself. 4 Hispanic people, 3 white people, 1 black person. 4 with blue eyes, 3 with brown eyes, 1 with hazel eyes. 3 are medium height, 2 are tall, 3 are very short but may or may not remain that way. The only way you can identify my tribe as a whole is these are the people I would risk my life to save and the people I trust completely. They're my people because they're mine. Doesn't mean I don't identify with other people for various other reasons. My people are my people because I love them. I don't see that as the same as saying "my people" and meaning all white people. Millions of strangers? The only constant is that they're white? These aren't the people on your side in a fight. If I see a white person and a black person in a fight I am going to back away until I'm at a good distance and then I'm goin to turn and leave. I'm not going to jump in the fight with someone because they're white.

Your immediate allegiances are not the only factors in play.
There are human groupings of every conceivable size from couples to nation states. You probably identify with some of these; with your city, state or country. Perhaps your company or a sports team. I hope not your church. You have only specifically identified your people as those you would risk your safety for. For most of us, that would include family. The stability and persistence of all these replicating patterns is a complex function of their internal information exchange and its interplay with the environment and each other. Racism is not only an individual choice, it is a societal decision embodied in institutions and codified in law, written or not.

Geologically not long ago, humans lived in groups of a couple dozen or fewer, strangers were probably advance scouts or raiding parties so xenophobia made good sense. We've gotten friendlier with one another and so social and successful as a species that we've filled the planet to a density which cannot be sustained. Thus, in the long run, the friendliness we exhibit as social justice, equality of sexes or gender identities is a characteristic that threatens to lead us to our own extinction. I do not consider this to be good or bad in an absolute sense because I do not believe in absolute good or evil. But I do personally consider it undesirable because I depend on technological society for my comfort and well being and for that of those I care for. The entities driving this are much larger and more influential than I and I find my impotence in affecting them frustrating. But, given the liberty, I'm not sure I would always act in a speciesist human friendly way. For instance, given the ability, I would probably destroy all humans who poach elephants, whether they do so to feed their starving children or not.

There are always going to be human beings who deserve nothing but swift termination.

It's just the matter of deciding how and why.

I wouldn't destroy all humans who poach elephants. ESPECIALLY if it was to feed their starving children. And the fact that you do not utilize that differentiation really speaks ill of your sense of morals and ethics, in a way that I find reprehensible, to be frank. Clearly you've never suffered the pain of starvation yourself in your privileged little sheltered life to hold such sentiments; if you had, you would find yourself eating your words quickly and regretting ever speaking them with any semblance of pride or conviction. If someone is poaching elephants just because they want to be rich, then yeah, I'd be happy seeing them sent to prison for the next quarter of their lifespans. But killing them because they're doing it to feed their starving children?

I mean, are you fucking real?? And if so, what fucking sheltered world do you live in? Because whatever it is? You clearly don't deserve it.

I suddenly find myself liking you a lot less. That was one of the most disgusting things I've read here in a while, and given how many theists with their brainwashed ideologies and amoral convictions we get here, that's saying a lot. I'll give you the chance to recant, but if you find yourself not wishing to do so, I'm just going to tell you this: We're gonna have problems going forward.

(January 3, 2015 at 12:58 am)JuliaL Wrote:

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Your immediate allegiances are not the only factors in play.
There are human groupings of every conceivable size from couples to nation states. You probably identify with some of these; with your city, state or country. Perhaps your company or a sports team. I hope not your church. You have only specifically identified your people as those you would risk your safety for. For most of us, that would include family. The stability and persistence of all these replicating patterns is a complex function of their internal information exchange and its interplay with the environment and each other. Racism is not only an individual choice, it is a societal decision embodied in institutions and codified in law, written or not.

Geologically not long ago, humans lived in groups of a couple dozen or fewer, strangers were probably advance scouts or raiding parties so xenophobia made good sense. We've gotten friendlier with one another and so social and successful as a species that we've filled the planet to a density which cannot be sustained. Thus, in the long run, the friendliness we exhibit as social justice, equality of sexes or gender identities is a characteristic that threatens to lead us to our own extinction. I do not consider this to be good or bad in an absolute sense because I do not believe in absolute good or evil. But I do personally consider it undesirable because I depend on technological society for my comfort and well being and for that of those I care for. The entities driving this are much larger and more influential than I and I find my impotence in affecting them frustrating. But, given the liberty, I'm not sure I would always act in a speciesist human friendly way. For instance, given the ability, I would probably destroy all humans who poach elephants, whether they do so to feed their starving children or not.

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I'm sorry I don't know if I'm just super dense today...but I honestly don't see how either of your responses were relevant to my post. I'm not a member of a real tribe...
Killing someone for doing whatever it takes to feed their children is pretty fucking sick if you ask me.

(January 2, 2015 at 9:17 pm)Natachan Wrote: Huh. I'm proud of my heritage and my ancestry. I'm proud of the history before they came to this country. But am I proud to be white? I dunno, I don't think about it. I also don't think about how I'm blonde, and taller than average.

Thinking about it, I'm not sure pride is the right word to describe how I feel. Connected is better. A sense of identity, of continuity, would be a better description.

But yeah, I don't get having pride over a genetic accident. Like having pride over having two arms. So what? And forming an in-group based on it is even more illogical.

I don't really think people actually do have a problem with pride in race, but you would have to be naive to not notice that a lot of times "I have racial pride." is actually another way of saying "I'm a racist".

Personally if I had blonde hair, I'd be proud because people with blonde hair are quite rare worldwide, relatively speaking.
I always think that most rare characteristics look good, and I'd be proud if I had these characteristics.
Like I once dated a half Indian half black girl with blue eyes, and I loved the way that looked. If I looked like that I'd be proud of the rarity I think.
I've always wanted to have green eyes, or even better, like David Bowie, have two different eye colors.
I wouldn't look down on people who didn't look like me, but I'd probably go out of my way to avoid wearing sunglasses or hats.

I don't think there should be a black pride movement personally because adversity can be faced by any race or person, and calling it black pride makes it racist when it could actually be something that unites working class black people and white people and any other people whatever class or race they are who face true tough adversity.

There's lots of organizations I think that have potential in being a credit to the population but spoil it with racist idiocy.
Like the EDL in England is supposedly about stopping Islamic rules, pedophilia and sharia law in England, yet in reality the followers and even the leaders I think are not much more than drunken racist wasters.
Their followers will do nazi salutes while at the same time as supporting Israel against Muslims, while at the same time as being in support of Anders Breivik.

(January 3, 2015 at 12:05 am)polar bear Wrote:

(January 1, 2015 at 5:22 pm)Alex K Wrote: Exactly

I knew I liked you Alex. Dead Kennedy's are from my era and I saw them several times in Boulder

Cool! And boulder is such a nice city, if I had to pick a spot to live in the US, it's high on the list. I'm really a bit too young to have seen the dead kennedys, and I'm mostly a metal person myself (apart from classical music). So I mainly make contact with punk stuff through old school thrash, grindcore acts like ND or certain metalcore, hence the ND vid. Sepultura had quite the punk attitude from time to time in the old days, and did cover some cool stuff.

(January 3, 2015 at 6:41 am)Losty Wrote: I'm sorry I don't know if I'm just super dense today...but I honestly don't see how either of your responses were relevant to my post. I'm not a member of a real tribe...
Killing someone for doing whatever it takes to feed their children is pretty fucking sick if you ask me.

Your apology is not required.
I don't know what you mean by a 'real' tribe. I used that term for convenience in referring to identifiable replicating patterns which include you. You are, by definition, members of these patterns and you and they may or may not profit from your membership. These replicating patterns are subject to natural selection as are all replicating patterns. Those patterns which persist and replicate best are those patterns which we observe. The characteristics which allow them to persist and replicate may be considered 'good' in the context of their persistence and replication.
For example, your distain for killing starving children would be 'good' for the replication and persistence of humans and by extension human society. It would not be good from the standpoint of an elephant whose children would be threatened by the flourishing of the human population.
As a human, I find human suffering disagreeable. I also find the gratuitous death of human children evil. However, I try to consider viewpoints other than my own. From the contexts of the above replicators e.g. the elephant or more abstractly, human society you get different answers. Is bacon good? Most people you ask say yes! but the pig would disagree.

Elephants don't have standpoints and pigs can't agree or disagree.

I asked a pig once if he liked bacon...he said and I quote " ....."

I personally don't think I could kill someone unless they were harming or trying to harm one of my children.

(January 3, 2015 at 5:20 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Elephants don't have standpoints and pigs can't agree or disagree.

Citation needed.