(January 9, 2015 at 4:17 pm) أكبر‎ Wrote: You are persistent! You are an enemy of Muhammad servant of Allah most gracious most merciful and empowered by  Iblis who is the chief of evil and the leader of rebelliousness and the wisest of serpents who will lay snares for the holy prophet of God which appear to be wisdom to men....but Muhammad spoke with the wisdom of Allah as Divine revelation foretold by the Angel Gabriel messenger of Allah and the followers of Allah do not have always an answer for every question proposed by the accuser of the righteous elect who see the truth as foolishness for their sin has put scales over their eyes.

The other is Shaitaan or Shaytan who leads all to the path of evil with instruction that appears as precious wisdom to tickle the itchy ears and delight the hearts of those who are only impressed with human wisdom and not the wisdom that comes from above! All creation belongs to Allah so we should fear him not any creature! 

I don't believe any of that was true.

This is not my work

Quote: we will see what the condition of women in Arabia was before the advent of Islam.In those days, women were treated like slaves or property. Their personal consent concerning anything related to their well-being was considered unimportant and unnecessary to such an extent that they were never even treated as a party to a marriage contract.Women were used for one purpose, and then discarded.

Looks pretty much like Islamic role of women so far, except they keep em locked up and under cover.

It always seems strange when you see the Islamic familes out and and about. the men look like everyother man and the woman have time travelled from the 14th Century with their excessive coverings.

Quote: They had no independence, could not own property and were not allowed to inherit. In times of war, women were treated as part of the loot. Simply put, their plight was unspeakable.

Have you seen what ISIS are doing. Islam is exactly as bad as the old ways.

Quote:Furthermore, the birth of a daughter in a family was not an occasion for rejoicing, but was regarded with humiliation. The practice of killing female children was rampant. The pagan Arabs used to bury alive their daughters with the fear that these girls will grow up and will get married to some men who will be called their sons-in-law.After the death of the father, the sons used to share his wives among themselves as they shared their father's property. After the death of the husband, the widow was kicked out of the house and was forced to live in a small hut, which was unventilated and dark, for one year. She was not permitted to leave the hut, nor was she allowed to take bath or change clothes. After one year, she was allowed to come out of the hut. People threw the camel dung into her lap and asked her to rub her body against the body of an animal. Then she was forced to go round the village in the same dirty attire, throwing the camel dung on her right and her left. This was the indication that she has completed her Iddat (waiting period).In India, the Hindu woman was the most suppressed creature. She was born to serve her men folk ? her father and brother before marriage, and husband and father-in-law and husband?s brothers after the marriage. She was forced to worship her husband. After the death of her husband she had no right to live and was forced to be burnt alive at the pyre of her husband. This inhuman custom was called the Sati. If she had no issue from her husband, she was forced to lie with her husband's brothers to get pregnant. This practice was called "Niyoga".Outside Arabia, conditions for women were no better. In Egypt and all European countries in the Dark Ages, women were treated worse than slaves. They were not regarded as human beings but as sort of sub-species between humans and animals.

So Islam may have been a bit better than some of the other societies at the time. But look how society other than Islam has moved on. the rest of the world makes Islams treatment of women look evil in comparison.

I'm still waiting to see what the source he quoted is.

(January 9, 2015 at 3:40 pm) أكبر‎ Wrote: are there any other people in the 7th century that were moved and inspired to preach that the universe is always expanding?

They didn't know anything about the universe at all. Allah is a delusion of a diseased mind. Like the bible, the quron is filled with thousands of vague allegories that have thousands of translations, so it would be extremely odd if a few of them didn't luck up and align a bit with real science.

People who think the ignorant pig fucker Mohammad the prophet jumped on a flying horse with wings and flew over the moon are too stupid to talk science at the big boys' table.

Why is Allah always hiding? Why do the muslims always have to protect his reputation? Is he too senile and stupid to do ANYTHING on his own? If 'Mo the prophet is still alive in heaven, is he too busy giving sows venereal diseases to come shut us up himself? Why is Allah and his butt buddies so afraid to do their own dirty work that they have to send mental midgets from the middle east to do it?

The only reason the muslim pig dicks were able to kill the good people of France is because they had been accepted into their country with good will and openness. The muslim countries are very weak militarily compared to the west, mostly because they deny science and education and instead spend all their time groveling to an imaginary god.

It would seem the resident theists want nothing to do with this thread. For those of them that are watching, we think no more of your theories and assertions than we do of the claims of أكبر‎ .

And for the few that might be thinking, "What the hell is this guy talking about?", that is exactly how we feel whilst rebutting theist arguments.

(January 9, 2015 at 12:45 pm) أكبر‎ Wrote: HIV and sexually transmitted diseases are an epidemic in your population.

Approximately 0.04% of the population of America is living with HIV. You have a funny notion of what constitutes an epidemic.

(January 9, 2015 at 12:45 pm) أكبر‎ Wrote: Sharia law would not allow HIV to survive!

Sharia law would be an incentive for people to conceal their infected condition and avoid diagnosis. The theocratic government would report a clean bill of health while the people were dying.

(January 9, 2015 at 3:01 pm) أكبر‎ Wrote: women were treated better under Islamic Government than they were in Saudi Arabia before the Islamic law

"Better" does not mean good, fair or equal.

(January 9, 2015 at 12:51 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(January 9, 2015 at 12:50 pm) أكبر‎ Wrote: Instead of saying ROW how about you speak English actually tell me what you mean to say rather than asking a question that's vague

That's so perfectly delicious that you didn't understand the question about Islamic societies lagging behind in education.

Would it kill you to explain what ROW is? I don't have any idea of what is meant by it either.

(January 9, 2015 at 4:42 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(January 9, 2015 at 12:51 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: That's so perfectly delicious that you didn't understand the question about Islamic societies lagging behind in education.

Would it kill you to explain what ROW is? I don't have any idea of what is meant by it either.

"Rest of the World"

(January 9, 2015 at 12:58 pm) أكبر‎ Wrote:  Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

What does that have to do with anything under discussion? If you're trying to make the case that the Qu'ran is a barbaric relic of the medieval world the rest of society has moved beyond it, you should start a new thread for that topic.

(January 9, 2015 at 3:56 pm)Losty Wrote:

(January 9, 2015 at 3:07 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Squiggle

Hehehe

His name,أكبر, is "akbar".