(January 16, 2015 at 1:51 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: I prefer geeps over mules or ligers for an example of different species mating. A geep is the popular term for the offspring of a sheep and a goat. Not only are sheep and goats separate species, but they are a separate genus with a different number of chromosomes. Sheep belong to the genus Ovis and have 54 chromosomes, while goats belong to the genus Capra and have 60 chromosomes. Sheep and Goats are genetically more different than humans and chimps. While this doesn't mean that a natural human chimp hybrid is possible it does demonstrate that the difference in human chimp chromosomes doesn't mean that it is not possible.

Wow, I hadn't heard of geeps. The fault-tolerance of DNA is amazing.

You cannot use the Bible as an accurate source of information for the beginning of the universe and the evolution of humanity.
Anyway, here are some Bible verses you might enjoy:
Deut. 28:53
Genesis 38:9
Deut. 23:1
Leviticus 23:16
Numbers 31:32
Genesis 16:8
Genesis 15:9
Deut. 25:11
Genesis 19:8

Also if Adam and Eve were the first human beings that god created there isn't enough genetic diversity.
So all in all we wouldn't look human....

(January 16, 2015 at 10:18 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Drich, did god make the "monkey man without a soul", first, then later after the monkey men (without a soul) made cities created man in its image?

I'm saying God durning the 7 days of creation made man/Adam (man made in his image.) placed him in the garden just like the bible says.

'Monkey man' evolved outside the garden just like you believe.

but where are the spiders?

(January 16, 2015 at 11:14 pm)Drich Wrote: I'm saying God durning the 7 days of creation made man/Adam (man made in his image.) placed him in the garden just like the bible says.

'Monkey man' evolved outside the garden just like you believe.

Man, that is a whole lot of declarative language for a claim for which the whole justification is "it doesn't say it didn't happen in the bible!"

(January 16, 2015 at 11:16 pm)Davka Wrote: but where are the spiders?

While the flies tried to break our balls?

(January 16, 2015 at 11:14 pm)Drich Wrote:

(January 16, 2015 at 10:18 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Drich, did god make the "monkey man without a soul", first, then later after the monkey men (without a soul) made cities created man in its image?

I'm saying God durning the 7 days of creation made man/Adam (man made in his image.) placed him in the garden just like the bible says.

'Monkey man' evolved outside the garden just like you believe.

Adam and Eve is not real by any means.... so what now monkey man?

(January 16, 2015 at 10:20 am)watchamadoodle Wrote: It seems like you are explaining how a literal reading of the 6000 year genealogy in Genesis could coexist with billions of years of evolution.

I am pointing out how no time line between creation and the fall COULD have worked out.

Quote:As Nope pointed-out human culture goes back further than 6000 years, so that is a problem.

how so? Monkey man is human, (human descended from monkeys just like science says..) and existed outside the garden well before man made in the image of God was expelled from the garden.

Quote:Also, a literal reading of Genesis suggests that there is a garden of Eden somewhere on Earth guarded by four spiritual beings. There is no garden of Eden today, so you can't read that story literally. Why are you hung-up on reading the 6000 year genealogy literally when you can't read other parts of genesis literally.

Wake up and smell the coffee, Drich. If God exists, he can't expect you to lie to yourself IMO.

Who says there isn't a garden? If we literally look at Genesis we canes it is defined by 4 rivers, two of which we can identify today. When we look at a map we have an idea of how big and where the garden is.

If you look there now on a map you will see a massive desert sitting on top of the garden. This also explains why there are have been no fossils ever found in that region and the reason for oil under that region (the bio mass needed to produce those millions upon trillions of barrels of oil)[/quote]

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(January 16, 2015 at 10:25 am)robvalue Wrote: Indeed. If the bible was true it shouldn't require such ridiculous contortions and twisting of reality to try and shoe horn it on. It should be clear. Especially if a freaking God wrote it or something.

Again the explaination is as easy as there is no time line between the last day of creation and the fall. "The crazy explaination" is only needed when one wants to encorperate the faith they have in science.