(January 20, 2015 at 1:45 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Who is this "she" "her" "woman" you guys keep talking about? A dude wrote the article...

Ha! Although I actually didn't comment on the authors gender myself I assumed it was a woman. I think that it's in a blog called everyday feminist gave us the idea that it's a woman.

(January 20, 2015 at 4:02 pm)dyresand Wrote: I stopped at patriarchy i couldn't go any further than that.... considering its one of those kinds "feminists" they clearly have no idea what the fuck they are talking about.
Clearly in Islam and Muslim faith they promote patriarchy so... yeah....

I think it's the kind of feminism that loves to find an "oppressor", which is almost always a heterosexual white man. If you're anything but a heterosexual white man, you get politically correct immunity from criticism if you do anything shady.

I don't really follow that magazine, but I have glanced before and occasionally they do have some good stuff. However, this "Islam isn't homophobic" article isn't the first objectionable thing I've seen on there either.

(January 20, 2015 at 4:08 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: I think it's the kind of feminism that loves to find an "oppressor", which is almost always a heterosexual white man. If you're anything but a heterosexual white man, you get politically correct immunity from criticism if you do anything shady.

I don't really follow that magazine, but I have glanced before and occasionally they do have some good stuff. However, this "Islam isn't homophobic" article isn't the first objectionable thing I've seen on there either.

Is that really a type of feminism or just a type of person? Some people love to be offended and go out of their way to be offended all the time.

(January 20, 2015 at 4:11 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(January 20, 2015 at 4:08 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: I think it's the kind of feminism that loves to find an "oppressor", which is almost always a heterosexual white man. If you're anything but a heterosexual white man, you get politically correct immunity from criticism if you do anything shady.

I don't really follow that magazine, but I have glanced before and occasionally they do have some good stuff. However, this "Islam isn't homophobic" article isn't the first objectionable thing I've seen on there either.

Is that really a type of feminism or just a type of person? Some people love to be offended and go out of their way to be offended all the time.

Muslims are a good example of that.

Hmmm might be a type of person but it seems increasingly common especially in the Tumblr "SOCIAL JUSTICE!!!" community.

It sucks because I'm all for mainstream feminism obviously, these people be giving the feminists bad press.

(January 20, 2015 at 4:15 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: Hmmm might be a type of person but it seems increasingly common especially in the Tumblr "SOCIAL JUSTICE!!!" community.

It sucks because I'm all for mainstream feminism obviously, these people be giving the feminists bad press.

I never used tumblr because it can give anyone a bad name. I have no intent of ever using it.

I completely agree with most of what you've said, Jaguar; I am most of all a moderate social democrat so I prefer to not take either a 100% dogmatic support of a movement or a 100% anti-position against something. Regarding feminism, I've noticed there's some minority MRA's that actually only work on men's issues and I support that cause, but I don't support MRA's that lie on false rape accusations or just want to demonize women as good old loving gold diggers or "whores"

Hmm I think this is where we disagree hehe

Personally I see no need for MRAs, purely because most of the "problems" men face in society are created by the system we already have, not by feminism. For example, the only reason women are favoured in custody battles is because the society we live in already dictates that women are the natural carers, while men apparently have no time for their kids and just want to be bachelors. That doesn't come from feminism, and most mainstream feminists would want that dismantled.

That's my opinion. You've already got an answer and solution to most of the issues so-called "MRAs" bring up within feminism.

(January 20, 2015 at 4:26 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: Hmm I think this is where we disagree hehe

Personally I see no need for MRAs, purely because most of the "problems" men face in society are created by the system we already have, not by feminism. For example, the only reason women are favoured in custody battles is because the society we live in already dictates that women are the natural carers while men apparently have no time for their kids and just want to be bachelors. That doesn't come from feminism, and most mainstream feminists would want that dismantled.

That's my opinion. You've already got an answer to most of the issues so-called "MRAs" bring up within feminism.

I've been trying to say that to men who think women are evil bitches that want to live on child custody money. I have the same opinion on the draft - War is an institution created and fuelled by men, we have always excluded women because we thought of them as weaker and less capable, and as such we have no right to claim a disadvantage when we are the ones in the first place who've dictated the tradition of excluding women from the military draft. I've met men and women in the military and honestly, in a fight between both it's very unclear whether the man really has advantage because of higher physical strength. But in my case I'm against the draft for both parties and western countries have been adopting these measures. In my country, there's a national defense day to everyone after you've completed 18 years of age, and it's equal for every person.