Ricky, my love

I have missed you baby cakes, how've you been?

You think the Universe is created and controlled by a mind because you are cognizant of your ability to create and control things after your mind has determined that it should be so.

But how many times does nature have to demonstrate that she does not operate according to our naive assumptions---based solely on childish intuitions---before we quit making them?

(February 18, 2015 at 8:03 am)Riketto Wrote:

(February 17, 2015 at 1:33 pm)Surgenator Wrote: Your questions start of with incorrect premises. There like "when did you stop beating your wife" questions. They make unjustified assumptions. Hence, your questions are just stupid.

I can not see any incorrect premises.

That's the problem.

Quote:The question is very very simple.
It say..............DO YOU THINK THAT THE UNIVERSE CAN EXIST WITHOUT A MIND & CONSCIOUSNESS OR NOT?

Yes, the universe can exist without a mind. Like a rock can exist without anyone observing it.

(February 18, 2015 at 10:29 am)Losty Wrote: Ricky, my love

I have missed you baby cakes, how've you been?

I was on the brink of total physical and mental collapse but now that you are here everything changed.
I feel like i reborn once again.
Please don't abandon me EVER.

(February 19, 2015 at 5:26 am)Riketto Wrote:

(February 18, 2015 at 10:29 am)Losty Wrote: Ricky, my love

I have missed you baby cakes, how've you been?

I was on the brink of total physical and mental collapse but now that you are here everything changed.
I feel like i reborn once again.
Please don't abandon me EVER.

Why on the brink of physical and mental collapse? Everything ok?

(February 19, 2015 at 5:47 am)Irrational Wrote:

(February 19, 2015 at 5:26 am)Riketto Wrote: I was on the brink of total physical and mental collapse but now that you are here everything changed.
I feel like i reborn once again.
Please don't abandon me EVER.

Why on the brink of physical and mental collapse? Everything ok?

You never experience real love, do you?

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(February 18, 2015 at 10:40 am)Nestor Wrote: You think the Universe is created and controlled by a mind because you are cognizant of your ability to create and control things after your mind has determined that it should be so.

But how many times does nature have to demonstrate that she does not operate according to our naive assumptions---based solely on childish intuitions---before we quit making them?

Very silly comment.
When you are dealing with yourself it only need one person to decide something.
You can decide to kill yourself or you can decide to improve your life or anything else that relate to your persona but when you are dealing with external entity then one person is not enough to decide what to do.
You got to take in consideration external factors.
You may not like rain or snow but without rain or snow everything will die so very often we can not understand why this or that happen and for what reason.
That doesn't mean that there is ALWAYS a reason for this or that to happen.
You may claim that i may not understand how the nature works but that is solely your opinion.
I do not understand everything of course but i do understand that the analogy between me thinking that a body without a mind can not work and the physical world without a supreme mind to run it can not work make a lot of sense.
So far none have come up with evidence that matter can run herself and you can be sure that nobody ever will so it is natural that a controlling mind is there to make sure that evolution is possible.

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(February 18, 2015 at 1:28 pm)Surgenator Wrote:

(February 18, 2015 at 8:03 am)Riketto Wrote: I can not see any incorrect premises.

That's the problem.

The problem of the problem.
Fortunally is not my problem.

Quote:The question is very very simple.
It say..............DO YOU THINK THAT THE UNIVERSE CAN EXIST WITHOUT A MIND & CONSCIOUSNESS OR NOT?

Quote:Yes, the universe can exist without a mind. Like a rock can exist without anyone observing it.

So, you got the evidence that God is not there to observe the rock and to mantain this external projection in his mind?
Let us see this evidence.

(February 19, 2015 at 6:43 am)Riketto Wrote:

(February 19, 2015 at 5:47 am)Irrational Wrote: Why on the brink of physical and mental collapse? Everything ok?

You never experience real love, do you?

Oh, is that what it was about? Love? Well, I'm happily in love with my girlfriend if that's what you're asking me.

(February 19, 2015 at 5:26 am)Riketto Wrote:

(February 18, 2015 at 10:29 am)Losty Wrote: Ricky, my love

I have missed you baby cakes, how've you been?

I was on the brink of total physical and mental collapse but now that you are here everything changed.
I feel like i reborn once again.
Please don't abandon me EVER.

Of course I wouldn't abandon you, Ricky. You're my future life husband. If I'm ever gone too long again, you can always come find me.

What you been up too in here, love?

(February 19, 2015 at 9:57 am)Losty Wrote:

(February 19, 2015 at 5:26 am)Riketto Wrote: I was on the brink of total physical and mental collapse but now that you are here everything changed.
I feel like i reborn once again.
Please don't abandon me EVER.

Of course I wouldn't abandon you, Ricky. You're my future life husband. If I'm ever gone too long again, you can always come find me.

What you been up too in here, love?

Well, i just was trying to reason with some mates of mine about whether the universe is made of matter only or require a mind to run it.
They reckon that this universe is like some sort of zombie that can run without a mind.
It is all very funny and at the same time too frighten to think that our life is in the hands of zombies.

(February 19, 2015 at 10:19 am)Riketto Wrote:

(February 19, 2015 at 9:57 am)Losty Wrote: Of course I wouldn't abandon you, Ricky. You're my future life husband. If I'm ever gone too long again, you can always come find me.

What you been up too in here, love?

Well, i just was trying to reason with some mates of mine about whether the universe is made of matter only or require a mind to run it.
They reckon that this universe is like some sort of zombie that can run without a mind.
It is all very funny and at the same time too frighten to think that our life is in the hands of zombies.

Argument from Incredulity