YES.....I just joined here the other day.....I kinda figured Athiest and Agnostic have a similar point of view...but I see I'm not alone.....BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT (((NOW)))....is that we make ourselves heard.....The onslaught of REPUBLICAN take-over....via lying, deceiving, fooling, the American people....it must be countered...we got less than 2 years!

(March 20, 2015 at 12:56 pm)LiveAboard Sailor Wrote: YES.....I just joined here the other day.....I kinda figured Athiest and Agnostic have a similar point of view...but I see I'm not alone.....BUT WHAT IS IMPORTANT (((NOW)))....is that we make ourselves heard.....The onslaught of REPUBLICAN take-over....via lying, deceiving, fooling, the American people....it must be countered...we got less than 2 years!

It's not just the republicans that lie and deceive. Corruption is endemic in this country. There is one party in this country - the big government, statist-first, do-anything-to-stay elected party. The two major wings only differ on how the spoils from the sheep should be divided. Like the Bloods and the Crips in South Central.

I will say, the republicans have become the dumber of the Dumb and Dumber circus that passes for government in the US, but that's not saying much.

Yeah, I'm a cynic. Comes from observing the same old shit time after time, hearing the same lies, and having a reasonably good memory.

On a sidenote, these trolls need to think of clever usernames - Who the hell names himself "theGays"?

Left wing, right wing, same bird.

(March 20, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Left wing, right wing, same bird.

lol!

Being a Cliff Claven know-it-all, I hate to admit it, but that's a new one for me.

(March 20, 2015 at 1:48 pm)Dystopia Wrote: On a sidenote, these trolls need to think of clever usernames - Who the hell names himself "theGays"?

Someone who thinks that this hits a raw nerve with the ones he's trolling. I've seen this occasionally with rightwingers. Since they are mostly homophobes they automatically assume it's the ultimate insult for everyone else to be called gay. Bigoted often times goes hand in hand with stupid.

(March 20, 2015 at 2:08 pm)abaris Wrote:

(March 20, 2015 at 1:48 pm)Dystopia Wrote: On a sidenote, these trolls need to think of clever usernames - Who the hell names himself "theGays"?

Someone who thinks that this hits a raw nerve with the ones he's trolling. I've seen this occasionally with rightwingers. Since they are mostly homophobes they automatically assume it's the ultimate insult for everyone else to be called gay. Bigoted often times goes hand in hand with stupid.

You may disagree with me but (assuming the OP was a white supremacist) I don't consider white nationalism to be right wing - It is authoritarian centrist and combines elements from both right and left - Hitler himself wasn't far far on the right, and some white supremacist parties in Europe are really in the middle but always authoritarian. I don't see the purpose in calling right-wingers authoritarians because there's conservatives in my country supporting gay marriage and adoption

(March 8, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Metis Wrote: Why are all atheists liberals? It's all part of our secret satanic masonic plot through the work of the illuminati's gay agenda to make the good straight theists take it up the butt while nomming on aborted fetuses.

1. Hey, I'm not gay! nor bi-sexual!
2. I do not know any secret handshake.
3. I'm not good in keeping membership in any organization. Is there a Fee?...because I am always broke. Nor from a rich wealthy family.
4. Well, I'm never joining the illuminati nor the masons (If they are secretly gay - homosexual that is).
5. Contemplation is better than social drinking (I think I just disqualified myself from most organizations).
6. I do not like organized 'religion' nor anything which forces to repeat some behavior to be liked or be part of some group.

(March 19, 2015 at 11:07 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I'm always amused when people equate liberals with socialists forgetting that real socialists despise both classical liberalism and modern liberalism (because both ideologies promote and allow capitalism to exist).

Quote:All atheists definitely are not liberals. I have spent a lot of time arguing with libertarian and conservative atheists during the past few years. They may be a minority in the atheist community but they are a very vocal one

I don't think so, most people associate atheists with left wing liberalism, secularism, tolerance and social liberalism

Well, what people associate something with and the reality of it are often very different. There are plenty of conservatives and libertarians in the atheist community, especially the latter. Sadly, several prominent atheists are libertarians and each has a large following.

(March 20, 2015 at 6:22 pm)abentwookie Wrote:

(March 19, 2015 at 11:07 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I'm always amused when people equate liberals with socialists forgetting that real socialists despise both classical liberalism and modern liberalism (because both ideologies promote and allow capitalism to exist).

I don't think so, most people associate atheists with left wing liberalism, secularism, tolerance and social liberalism

Well, what people associate something with and the reality of it are often very different. There are plenty of conservatives and libertarians in the atheist community, especially the latter. Sadly, several prominent atheists are libertarians and each has a large following.

If I remember correctly a survey showed about 15% of atheists identifying as conservatives, but conservative is an ambiguous word because it means different things all over the world.

People have the right to stand up for what they believe in