I think that humans and dinosaurs did coexist but humans not being the same as we think of humans today. Possibily in the late stages of dinosaurs small monkey or ape amimals were present and were in fact what we call humas and along the lines of evolution we evolved from that small creature to the massive civalization we are today that controls the very survival of some animals that one on one could make a light snak of any human.

(August 31, 2010 at 6:38 pm)goalie Wrote: I think that humans and dinosaurs did coexist but humans not being the same as we think of humans today. Possibily in the late stages of dinosaurs small monkey or ape amimals were present and were in fact what we call humas and along the lines of evolution we evolved from that small creature to the massive civalization we are today that controls the very survival of some animals that one on one could make a light snak of any human.

*facepalm*

Humans (Homo Sapiens) - 200,000 years ago
Dinosaurs - Extinct for 65,000,000 years

DIFFERENCE = 64,800,000 YEARS.

Or with Homo (Genus) - 2.5 Million years old

DIFFERENCE = 63,500,000 YEARS.

No chance, unless you want to rescue yourself by saying "I think that humans and dinosaurs did coexist and by Humans i mean Primates" this however would make you a dabbler in futility.

(August 31, 2010 at 6:46 pm)theVOID Wrote:

(August 31, 2010 at 6:38 pm)goalie Wrote: I think that humans and dinosaurs did coexist but humans not being the same as we think of humans today. Possibily in the late stages of dinosaurs small monkey or ape amimals were present and were in fact what we call humas and along the lines of evolution we evolved from that small creature to the massive civalization we are today that controls the very survival of some animals that one on one could make a light snak of any human.

*facepalm*

Humans (Homo Sapiens) - 200,000 years ago
Dinosaurs - Extinct for 65,000,000 years

DIFFERENCE = 64,800,000 YEARS.

Or with Homo (Genus) - 2.5 Million years old

DIFFERENCE = 63,500,000 YEARS.

No chance, unless you want to rescue yourself by saying "I think that humans and dinosaurs did coexist and by Humans i mean Primates" this however would make you a dabbler in futility.

Oh boy did you not read the part were I stated that "possibily in the late stages of dinosaurs small monkey or ape amimals were present and were in fact what we call humas and along the lines of evolution we evolved from that small creature to the massive civalization we are today" or not?

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(August 31, 2010 at 7:22 pm)goalie Wrote:

(August 31, 2010 at 6:46 pm)theVOID Wrote:

(August 31, 2010 at 6:38 pm)goalie Wrote: I think that humans and dinosaurs did coexist but humans not being the same as we think of humans today. Possibily in the late stages of dinosaurs small monkey or ape amimals were present and were in fact what we call humas and along the lines of evolution we evolved from that small creature to the massive civalization we are today that controls the very survival of some animals that one on one could make a light snak of any human.

*facepalm*

Humans (Homo Sapiens) - 200,000 years ago
Dinosaurs - Extinct for 65,000,000 years

DIFFERENCE = 64,800,000 YEARS.

Or with Homo (Genus) - 2.5 Million years old

DIFFERENCE = 63,500,000 YEARS.

No chance, unless you want to rescue yourself by saying "I think that humans and dinosaurs did coexist and by Humans i mean Primates" this however would make you a dabbler in futility.

Oh boy did you not read the part were I stated that "possibily in the late stages of dinosaurs small monkey or ape amimals were present and were in fact what we call humas and along the lines of evolution we evolved from that small creature to the massive civalization we are today" or not?

Who exacty are you, the scientific inquisitor? I yet to see your reasons for suporting or disagreeing with this thread and whatever dates you post today as correct could easily be laughed at in 10 years.

(August 31, 2010 at 7:22 pm)goalie Wrote: Oh boy did you not read the part were I stated that "possibily in the late stages of dinosaurs small monkey or ape amimals were present and were in fact what we call humas and along the lines of evolution we evolved from that small creature to the massive civalization we are today" or not?

Does it really matter? There weren't any primates prior to the extinction event that killed the dinosaurs. Primates became primates some millions of years ago, but most certainly after the dinosaurs, as they existed 65m years ago, were gone.
At best, you could argue that modern 'dinosaurs' - birds, certain reptiles, and certain aquatic creatures that have forms that have existed for untold millions of years lived at the same time as ancient primates, but not humans, the genus homo, or any primate existed during the time prior to 65m years ago.

(August 31, 2010 at 7:22 pm)goalie Wrote: Who exacty are you, the scientific inquisitor? I yet to see your reasons for suporting or disagreeing with this thread and whatever dates you post today as correct could easily be laughed at in 10 years.

The first mammals from that age are known, as are the first primates.

The first mammals formed during the age of the dinosaurs and the first primates formed after dinosaurs were extinct. The first primates were a lot like modern shrews and squirrels. The first mammals were almost as much reptile as they were mammal.

Monkeys and apes did not appear until 25~30 million years after the first primates.
So no, there were no monkeys or apes during the age of dinosaurs and the papers/websites I'm looking at don't seem to think that even the earliest primates existed before the extinction event that killed the dinosaurs.
At best, you could argue that maybe the earliest, earliest, earliest prototype primates evolved just before the extinction event and survived. However, what is definately wrong here is that no apes or monkeys were around more than 30-some odd million years ago. Ergo, you are wrong.

(August 31, 2010 at 10:16 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:

(August 31, 2010 at 7:22 pm)goalie Wrote: Oh boy did you not read the part were I stated that "possibily in the late stages of dinosaurs small monkey or ape amimals were present and were in fact what we call humas and along the lines of evolution we evolved from that small creature to the massive civalization we are today" or not?

Does it really matter? There weren't any primates prior to the extinction event that killed the dinosaurs. Primates became primates some millions of years ago, but most certainly after the dinosaurs, as they existed 65m years ago, were gone.
At best, you could argue that modern 'dinosaurs' - birds, certain reptiles, and certain aquatic creatures that have forms that have existed for untold millions of years lived at the same time as ancient primates, but not humans, the genus homo, or any primate existed during the time prior to 65m years ago.

(August 31, 2010 at 7:22 pm)goalie Wrote: Who exacty are you, the scientific inquisitor? I yet to see your reasons for suporting or disagreeing with this thread and whatever dates you post today as correct could easily be laughed at in 10 years.

The first mammals from that age are known, as are the first primates.

The first mammals formed during the age of the dinosaurs and the first primates formed after dinosaurs were extinct. The first primates were a lot like modern shrews and squirrels. The first mammals were almost as much reptile as they were mammal.

Monkeys and apes did not appear until 25~30 million years after the first primates.
So no, there were no monkeys or apes during the age of dinosaurs and the papers/websites I'm looking at don't seem to think that even the earliest primates existed before the extinction event that killed the dinosaurs.
At best, you could argue that maybe the earliest, earliest, earliest prototype primates evolved just before the extinction event and survived. However, what is definately wrong here is that no apes or monkeys were around more than 30-some odd million years ago. Ergo, you are wrong.

Fair enough I surender, also when I said monkey or ape like amimal I did mean primate and now that there are facts on the table I can say now that I agree with you. Thanks.

(August 31, 2010 at 7:22 pm)goalie Wrote: Oh boy did you not read the part were I stated that "possibily in the late stages of dinosaurs small monkey or ape amimals were present and were in fact what we call humas and along the lines of evolution we evolved from that small creature to the massive civalization we are today" or not?

Yes i did, and it contains both stupidity and futility (bolded).

1) It is ridiculous to call them Human, it's a word that has a very distinct meaning and describes a very narrow lineage of Primates - US. To call anything else human is just plain silly.

(August 31, 2010 at 10:39 pm)theVOID Wrote:

(August 31, 2010 at 7:22 pm)goalie Wrote: Oh boy did you not read the part were I stated that "possibily in the late stages of dinosaurs small monkey or ape amimals were present and were in fact what we call humas and along the lines of evolution we evolved from that small creature to the massive civalization we are today" or not?

Yes i did, and it contains both stupidity and futility (bolded).

1) It is ridiculous to call them Human, it's a word that has a very distinct meaning and describes a very narrow lineage of Primates - US. To call anything else human is just plain silly.

Would you have liked it better if I had said: and those primates later evolved onto what are known today as humans?

(August 31, 2010 at 10:16 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: Does it really matter? There weren't any primates prior to the extinction event that killed the dinosaurs.

I wouldn't be so quick to claim that, there are primate remains that have been found from 58 Million BCE, and Evolutionary developmental evidence (the time necessary for the evolutionary process to take the 58Mil BCE primates from the closest known mammalian pre-extinction based on the number of mutations and viral coding doesn't seem long enough, even considering Adaptive radiation being highly effective in newly predator-free environments, it is actually more likely that there was a genuine primate ancestor before 65Mil BCE), and fossil evidence (bone structure of later primates as opposed to the currently identified pre-primates) to suggest that they may have been around for as long as 75 Million BCE.

Just in case you're interested

(August 31, 2010 at 10:48 pm)theVOID Wrote:

(August 31, 2010 at 10:16 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: Does it really matter? There weren't any primates prior to the extinction event that killed the dinosaurs.

I wouldn't be so quick to claim that, there are primate remains that have been found from 58 Million BCE, and Evolutionary developmental evidence (the time necessary for the evolutionary process to take the 58Mil BCE primates from the closest known mammalian pre-extinction based on the number of mutations and viral coding doesn't seem long enough - it is more likely that there was a genuine primate ancestor before 65Mil BCE), and fossil evidence (bone structure of later primates as opposed to the currently identified pre-primates) to suggest that they may have been around for as long as 75 Million BCE.

Just in case you're interested

Therefore puting them in the time of the dinosaurs?