Listening to people try and bend reality to fit Genesis is almost as entertaining as when they try to peddle Noahs ark as fact. Childlike minds full of wonderment in adult bodies.

(March 16, 2015 at 1:13 am)snowtracks Wrote: Even the English word 'day' requires context, i.e., " in their grandfather's day", or "day of the dinosaurs". The creation passages are completely harmonious with science when the Hebrew word 'Yom' is correctly interpreted in context as 'a long but finite period of time'.

...and the context of the first creation account is "there was evening, and there was morning, the XXth day." The context indicates a regular 24-hour day, not "back in the day" or "in our day." And since the account refers to the supernatural actions of a supernatural being, they are not 'harmonious' with science at all. They are specifically the magical acts of a powerful sorcerer.

I can believe all that....I have little doubt....But...problems of human beings...living alongside human beings in a world growing closer arms and other limbs closer and closer, lesser space to excrete, becomes to smell....realizing the world is NOT big enough...for ever expanding human population...IS NOW on our front door step.....WHAT CAN MAN DO...if anything?

(March 20, 2015 at 12:57 pm)Tonus Wrote:

(March 16, 2015 at 1:13 am)snowtracks Wrote: Even the English word 'day' requires context, i.e., " in their grandfather's day", or "day of the dinosaurs". The creation passages are completely harmonious with science when the Hebrew word 'Yom' is correctly interpreted in context as 'a long but finite period of time'.

...and the context of the first creation account is "there was evening, and there was morning, the XXth day." The context indicates a regular 24-hour day, not "back in the day" or "in our day." And since the account refers to the supernatural actions of a supernatural being, they are not 'harmonious' with science at all. They are specifically the magical acts of a powerful sorcerer.

Well, get a load of this: an atheist has embraced the young earthies belief that the Genesis ‘day(s)’ = 24 hours. Will miracles ever cease? Actually, the sentence “There was evening, and there was morning” is a ’day’ maker that ends each of the first six days, and the sentence is only found in Genesis. The seventh day is different in that the day marker is absent. The seventh day carries through the centuries from Adam and Eve, through our present age + an unspecified time + 7 year tribulation period + the 1000 year kingdom reign of Christ. Then at that time point, God fulfills His purpose for the cosmos *. This will end and His Sabbath rest from creation. Then God replaces it with an entirely new creation, a new heaven and new earth, and the New Jerusalem (the coming eighth day).
The same Ancient Hebrew word of ’day’ for the six other days is the same word used for the seventh day. Interpreting ‘day(s)’ as literal is not enough, but has to be interpreted with both internal and external consistency. Hebrew tradition has always recognized a 24 hour literal day as a period from ‘evening to evening’, not evening to morning.
*“All the stars in the sky will be dissolved and the heavens rolled up like a scroll; all the starry host will fall like withered leaves from the vine, like shriveled figs from the fig tree”. .

(March 17, 2015 at 8:19 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

(March 16, 2015 at 1:13 am)snowtracks Wrote: Even the English word 'day' requires context, i.e., " in their grandfather's day", or "day of the dinosaurs". The creation passages are completely harmonious with science when the Hebrew word 'Yom' is correctly interpreted in context as 'a long but finite period of time'.

In other words, you're suggesting it was meant in the sense of era?  Unlikely, but if so there remains the more difficult problem of of how and in what order, not to mention what kind of universe god created.

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Day One:  God creates heavens and earth and separates light from darkness. So light and darkness were all mixed up until the earth was created and after that they were neatly separated?

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Day Two:  God makes a vault in the sky to separate the waters from the waters.  Wait a minute a vault in the sky holding back water.  Really?  Care to explain that one?  Didn't hear about any of the space launches hitting a vault.  No little trip through the vast sky born lake either.

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Day Three: God gathers the water under the sky to make dry land and puts vegetation on the land.  Funny, but I thought the fish came first.  Maybe not.  But I'm sure ocean critters came first, if not actual fish.

Day Four: God add light to vault in the sky, the sun and moon respectively, also the stars.   Also he separated day from night.  Apparently they were all mixed up before. Ooops, didn't the stars come before the earth and the moon later yet?  Oh and how do you get vegetation before the sun?  

Day Five: God creates the fishes and birds.  Whoops, the birds come after the land born creatures.

Day Six: God creates animals on land including livestock.  And he created humans. Okay, livestock was a breeding process really, a little bit of man made evolution in fact.

Oh but wait. . .that's only Genesis 1.  That's not how it really was, there's another creation account in Genesis 2.  This time god creates man before vegetation or rain, but there were streams.  Apparently without man to sow the seeds there could be no vegetation or at least that's what it says.  But, before that god had planted a garden to put man in.   At some indeterminate time god had made the animals and now he asked the man to name them.  Then he made Eve out of Adam's rib.

That story doesn't work very well either.

I really don't think make the days into eras even begins to solve the problems with Genesis.

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After Day1 (which ended with light reaching the earth’s surface for the first time), Day2 God’s “separation” of the waters seems a clear statement of his formation of the troposphere which is just above the oceans where humidity resides and where clouds form. Some detail is provided in Psalms reflecting on the events of Genesis 1 distinguishes the ‘highest heavens’ from the ‘waters above the skies’ and declares that God ‘set them in place’. The earth is being ready for photosynthesis with light and the water cycle.

(March 22, 2015 at 11:46 pm)snowtracks Wrote:

(March 20, 2015 at 12:57 pm)Tonus Wrote: ...and the context of the first creation account is "there was evening, and there was morning, the XXth day."  The context indicates a regular 24-hour day, not "back in the day" or "in our day."  And since the account refers to the supernatural actions of a supernatural being, they are not 'harmonious' with science at all.  They are specifically the magical acts of a powerful sorcerer.

Well, get a load of this: an atheist has embraced the young earthies belief that the Genesis ‘day(s)’ = 24 hours.

There's nothing to "embrace."  It's a story.  Two stories, actually.  But not a description of anything real.

(March 17, 2015 at 8:19 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

(March 16, 2015 at 1:13 am)snowtracks Wrote: Even the English word 'day' requires context, i.e., " in their grandfather's day", or "day of the dinosaurs". The creation passages are completely harmonious with science when the Hebrew word 'Yom' is correctly interpreted in context as 'a long but finite period of time'.

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In other words, you're suggesting it was meant in the sense of era?  Unlikely, but if so there remains the more difficult problem of of how and in what order, not to mention what kind of universe god created.

Day One:  God creates heavens and earth and separates light from darkness. So light and darkness were all mixed up until the earth was created and after that they were neatly separated?

Day Two:  God makes a vault in the sky to separate the waters from the waters.  Wait a minute a vault in the sky holding back water.  Really?  Care to explain that one?  Didn't hear about any of the space launches hitting a vault.  No little trip through the vast sky born lake either.

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Day Three: God gathers the water under the sky to make dry land and puts vegetation on the land.  Funny, but I thought the fish came first.  Maybe not.  But I'm sure ocean critters came first, if not actual fish.

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Day Four: God add light to vault in the sky, the sun and moon respectively, also the stars.   Also he separated day from night.  Apparently they were all mixed up before. Ooops, didn't the stars come before the earth and the moon later yet?  Oh and how do you get vegetation before the sun?  

Day Five: God creates the fishes and birds.  Whoops, the birds come after the land born creatures.

Day Six: God creates animals on land including livestock.  And he created humans. Okay, livestock was a breeding process really, a little bit of man made evolution in fact.

Oh but wait. . .that's only Genesis 1.  That's not how it really was, there's another creation account in Genesis 2.  This time god creates man before vegetation or rain, but there were streams.  Apparently without man to sow the seeds there could be no vegetation or at least that's what it says.  But, before that god had planted a garden to put man in.   At some indeterminate time god had made the animals and now he asked the man to name them.  Then he made Eve out of Adam's rib.

That story doesn't work very well either.

I really don't think make the days into eras even begins to solve the problems with Genesis.

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Day 3 (nearly halfway through the creation chronology), we read the biblical text description of the large continental landmass growth. This British research team confirms that earth’s landmass growth occurred primary in pulses halfway in earth’s history (caused primarily thru tectonic activity).
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Earth at one time was completely (or nearly) covered with water.

Gen 1:2 abbreviated - earth was formless and void - darkness over the surface of the deep - the Spirit of God was moving over the water surface.

Science discoveries are verifying that the record of Genesis is inspired, error-free.

Kindly shove your fucking bible up your ass.

(April 10, 2015 at 12:50 am)snowtracks Wrote:

(March 17, 2015 at 8:19 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

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In other words, you're suggesting it was meant in the sense of era?  Unlikely, but if so there remains the more difficult problem of of how and in what order, not to mention what kind of universe god created.

Day One:  God creates heavens and earth and separates light from darkness. So light and darkness were all mixed up until the earth was created and after that they were neatly separated?

Day Two:  God makes a vault in the sky to separate the waters from the waters.  Wait a minute a vault in the sky holding back water.  Really?  Care to explain that one?  Didn't hear about any of the space launches hitting a vault.  No little trip through the vast sky born lake either.

---

Day Three: God gathers the water under the sky to make dry land and puts vegetation on the land.  Funny, but I thought the fish came first.  Maybe not.  But I'm sure ocean critters came first, if not actual fish.

---

Day Four: God add light to vault in the sky, the sun and moon respectively, also the stars.   Also he separated day from night.  Apparently they were all mixed up before. Ooops, didn't the stars come before the earth and the moon later yet?  Oh and how do you get vegetation before the sun?  

Day Five: God creates the fishes and birds.  Whoops, the birds come after the land born creatures.

Day Six: God creates animals on land including livestock.  And he created humans. Okay, livestock was a breeding process really, a little bit of man made evolution in fact.

Oh but wait. . .that's only Genesis 1.  That's not how it really was, there's another creation account in Genesis 2.  This time god creates man before vegetation or rain, but there were streams.  Apparently without man to sow the seeds there could be no vegetation or at least that's what it says.  But, before that god had planted a garden to put man in.   At some indeterminate time god had made the animals and now he asked the man to name them.  Then he made Eve out of Adam's rib.

That story doesn't work very well either.

I really don't think make the days into eras even begins to solve the problems with Genesis.

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Day 3 (nearly halfway through the creation chronology), we read the biblical text description of the large continental landmass growth. This British research team confirms that earth’s landmass growth occurred primary in pulses halfway in earth’s history (caused primarily thru tectonic activity).
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Earth at one time was completely (or nearly) covered with water.

Gen 1:2 abbreviated - earth was formless and void - darkness over the surface of the deep - the Spirit of God was moving over the water surface.

Science discoveries are verifying that the record of Genesis is inspired, error-free.

Did you miss the 2.5 billion years part in your articles. Please don't waste our time arguing how science supports your belief because it doesn't. You're cherry picking what science says about the earth. You ignore what science about which came first, the stars or the earth.

(April 10, 2015 at 12:50 am)snowtracks Wrote: Science discoveries are verifying that the record of Genesis is inspired, error-free.

Of course it does. Where does it mention an accretion disc? Which verse of Genesis describes the young molten earth with a poisonous atmosphere?

Keep your bible bullshit by all means but don't try to drag science down to fit a myth. It makes you look stupid and insults the rest of us who value evidence.