Of course they did. Sunday is the day of rest because god rested on the 7th day, not the 7th 100,000 years.

Just write your own bible with whatever crap you want in it.

According to my calculations, a 'day' equals about 2 billion years.

(March 16, 2015 at 1:13 am)snowtracks Wrote: Even the English word 'day' requires context, i.e., " in their grandfather's day", or "day of the dinosaurs". The creation passages are completely harmonious with science when the Hebrew word 'Yom' is correctly interpreted in context as 'a long but finite period of time'.

In other words, you're suggesting it was meant in the sense of era? Unlikely, but if so there remains the more difficult problem of of how and in what order, not to mention what kind of universe god created.

Day One: God creates heavens and earth and separates light from darkness. So light and darkness were all mixed up until the earth was created and after that they were neatly separated?

Day Two: God makes a vault in the sky to separate the waters from the waters. Wait a minute a vault in the sky holding back water. Really? Care to explain that one? Didn't hear about any of the space launches hitting a vault. No little trip through the vast sky born lake either.

Day Three: God gathers the water under the sky to make dry land and puts vegetation on the land. Funny, but I thought the fish came first. Maybe not. But I'm sure ocean critters came first, if not actual fish.

Day Four: God add light to vault in the sky, the sun and moon respectively, also the stars. Also he separated day from night. Apparently they were all mixed up before. Ooops, didn't the stars come before the earth and the moon later yet? Oh and how do you get vegetation before the sun?

Day Five: God creates the fishes and birds. Whoops, the birds come after the land born creatures.

Day Six: God creates animals on land including livestock. And he created humans. Okay, livestock was a breeding process really, a little bit of man made evolution in fact.

Oh but wait. . .that's only Genesis 1. That's not how it really was, there's another creation account in Genesis 2. This time god creates man before vegetation or rain, but there were streams. Apparently without man to sow the seeds there could be no vegetation or at least that's what it says. But, before that god had planted a garden to put man in. At some indeterminate time god had made the animals and now he asked the man to name them. Then he made Eve out of Adam's rib.

That story doesn't work very well either.

I really don't think make the days into eras even begins to solve the problems with Genesis.

(March 17, 2015 at 8:19 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

(March 16, 2015 at 1:13 am)snowtracks Wrote: Even the English word 'day' requires context, i.e., " in their grandfather's day", or "day of the dinosaurs". The creation passages are completely harmonious with science when the Hebrew word 'Yom' is correctly interpreted in context as 'a long but finite period of time'.

In other words, you're suggesting it was meant in the sense of era? Unlikely, but if so there remains the more difficult problem of of how and in what order, not to mention what kind of universe god created.

Day One: God creates heavens and earth and separates light from darkness. So light and darkness were all mixed up until the earth was created and after that they were neatly separated?

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Day Two: God makes a vault in the sky to separate the waters from the waters. Wait a minute a vault in the sky holding back water. Really? Care to explain that one? Didn't hear about any of the space launches hitting a vault. No little trip through the vast sky born lake either.

Day Three: God gathers the water under the sky to make dry land and puts vegetation on the land. Funny, but I thought the fish came first. Maybe not. But I'm sure ocean critters came first, if not actual fish.

Day Four: God add light to vault in the sky, the sun and moon respectively, also the stars. Also he separated day from night. Apparently they were all mixed up before. Ooops, didn't the stars come before the earth and the moon later yet? Oh and how do you get vegetation before the sun?

Day Five: God creates the fishes and birds. Whoops, the birds come after the land born creatures.

Day Six: God creates animals on land including livestock. And he created humans. Okay, livestock was a breeding process really, a little bit of man made evolution in fact.

Oh but wait. . .that's only Genesis 1. That's not how it really was, there's another creation account in Genesis 2. This time god creates man before vegetation or rain, but there were streams. Apparently without man to sow the seeds there could be no vegetation or at least that's what it says. But, before that god had planted a garden to put man in. At some indeterminate time god had made the animals and now he asked the man to name them. Then he made Eve out of Adam's rib.

That story doesn't work very well either.

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I really don't think make the days into eras even begins to solve the problems with Genesis.

V1 - In the beginning…..States the cosmos is created, and that it began (not steady state, nor adhering to hindu doctrine of oscillations. Here the frame of reference (FOR) is from the cosmos.
V2 - FOR shifts to the earth’s water surface. >And the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters < . The Book of Job adds that the earth’s surface was dark because an opaque cloud covering prevented the light from reaching the surface.
V3 - This is where the ‘days’ began with the phrase ‘and God said’. The first phrase. >Let there be light< . The earth’s cloud covering is reduced enough to allow cosmic light sources to penetrate all the way to the earth’s surface.
With each one of the days, God is preparing the earth for mankind’s arrival. After God created man, He ‘rested’ (God’s creation activities have ceased until Day 7 completes). As one can see, some of the reasons God created the universe centers around Man - who has been endowed with both a body and spirit which connotes an eternal purpose.

(March 19, 2015 at 12:03 am)snowtracks Wrote: V1 - In the beginning…..States the cosmos is created, and that it began (not steady state, nor adhering to hindu doctrine of oscillations. Here the frame of reference (FOR) is from the cosmos.
V2 - FOR shifts to the earth’s water surface. >And the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters < . The Book of Job adds that the earth’s surface was dark because an opaque cloud covering prevented the light from reaching the surface.
V3 - This is where the ‘days’ began with the phrase ‘and God said’. The first phrase. >Let there be light< . The earth’s cloud covering is reduced enough to allow cosmic light sources to penetrate all the way to the earth’s surface.
With each one of the days, God is preparing the earth for mankind’s arrival. After God created man, He ‘rested’ (God’s creation activities have ceased until Day 7 completes). As one can see, some of the reasons God created the universe centers around Man - who has been endowed with both a body and spirit which connotes an eternal purpose.

Really?

Quote:In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:1-5

Seems to me that god created heaven and earth but earth was still without form and there was no light. Then god created light, after which he divided light from darkness. Odd that. And what waters was god hovering over? It all flies in the face of what we know about cosmology. So at the end of the first day we have a formless earth and light divided from dark but no source of light and nothing to stop light from illuminating everything. As a statement of what happened it's hopelessly[/quote] confused.

(March 19, 2015 at 12:03 am)snowtracks Wrote: V3 - This is where the ‘days’ began with the phrase ‘and God said’. The first phrase. >Let there be light< . The earth’s cloud covering is reduced enough to allow cosmic light sources to penetrate all the way to the earth’s surface.
With each one of the days, God is preparing the earth for mankind’s arrival. After God created man, He ‘rested’ (God’s creation activities have ceased until Day 7 completes). As one can see, some of the reasons God created the universe centers around Man - who has been endowed with both a body and spirit which connotes an eternal purpose.

But, as I pointed out and you have ignored those days of preparation are wildly out of order no matter how much time is allotted for each day. So why did this divinely inspired book get the order of event ass backwards?

And what about the creation story in Genesis 2 which is in a completely different order?

Genesis 1:1-5

Seems to me that god created heaven and earth but earth was still without form and there was no light. Then god created light
The cosmos light existed long before it's penetration to the earth's surface. When that happened, it marked the beginning of the first day. The frame of reference for the 'days' is the earth's surface.

(March 19, 2015 at 11:18 pm)snowtracks Wrote: The cosmos light existed long before it's penetration to the earth's surface. When that happened, it marked the beginning of the first day. The frame of reference for the 'days' is the earth's surface.

Jenny A Wrote:But, as I pointed out and you have ignored those days of preparation are wildly out of order no matter how much time is allotted for each day. So why did this divinely inspired book get the order of event ass backwards?

And what about the creation story in Genesis 2 which is in a completely different order?

And, just for the record, there was NEVER a time that light did not penetrate the earth surface, except before there was an earth. This is because the sun came first.

(March 19, 2015 at 11:29 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

(March 19, 2015 at 11:18 pm)snowtracks Wrote: The cosmos light existed long before it's penetration to the earth's surface. When that happened, it marked the beginning of the first day. The frame of reference for the 'days' is the earth's surface.

Jenny A Wrote:But, as I pointed out and you have ignored those days of preparation are wildly out of order no matter how much time is allotted for each day. So why did this divinely inspired book get the order of event ass backwards?

And what about the creation story in Genesis 2 which is in a completely different order?

And, just for the record, there was NEVER a time that light did not penetrate the earth surface, except before there was an earth. This is because the sun came first.

Flawed analysis, but nice try though. http://www.livescience.com/10668-thick-h...earth.html

(March 20, 2015 at 1:14 am)snowtracks Wrote:

(March 19, 2015 at 11:29 pm)Jenny A Wrote: And, just for the record, there was NEVER a time that light did not penetrate the earth surface, except before there was an earth. This is because the sun came first.

Flawed analysis, but nice try though. http://www.livescience.com/10668-thick-h...earth.html

The article says thick haze, not no light made to the surface. It specifically focuses on UV light being block by methane & nitrogen gas. It at no point states nor implies no light made it to the surface.

(March 20, 2015 at 2:10 am)Surgenator Wrote:

(March 20, 2015 at 1:14 am)snowtracks Wrote: Flawed analysis, but nice try though. http://www.livescience.com/10668-thick-h...earth.html

The article says thick haze, not no light made to the surface. It specifically focuses on UV light being block by methane & nitrogen gas. It at no point states nor implies no light made it to the surface.

well of course it doesn't. everyone knows uv light is harder to block than visible light.