(June 16, 2015 at 8:54 am)comet Wrote: But entanglement suggest that it is very possible.

Bullshit.

(June 16, 2015 at 9:12 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(June 16, 2015 at 9:09 am)comet Wrote: I am pretty sure some are fat faithless and stupid.  I don't give a fuck what happened to you in your youth, I only do data, not fat shit head blind faith stances.

Well, that's nice.  No idea what you're trying to imply 'happened in my youth'.

Quote:feel free to point out any error. or go get somebody you know that can.

I'm literally just asking for some examples of "actual" events of this kind of premonition or psychic phenomena or somesuch.

well, the actual events are the posters.  I gave one that I don't even believe happened.  There are two.  
Next, I said go ask any hospital worker, well actually a large group of them, and ask them the crazy stuff they saw.
 
The sheer volume of claims in this area means at least a small percentage is from honest people just stating what they saw.  Remember fat man, I don't have a belief system to defend.   So just flat out dismissing observations because it doesn't match my belief system isn't my thing.   I mean because you can say "nope" to millions of observations no matter what doesn't mean logical people have too. 

now remember fat man, this is not about magic at the corner palm reader's.  This is about a close family member feeling something awful just happened to somebody they love dearly.  

(June 16, 2015 at 11:05 am)comet Wrote:

(June 16, 2015 at 10:55 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Random anecdotes and vague appeals to quantum mechanics while simultaneously asserting that science supports your claims is not logical, comet

lmao,  of course its vague.  It's all we have today.  Now, can you use the science that I used to tell me I am wrong?  I mean past your personal, obviously lacking understanding of the science, emotionally based opinion?  

What 'science' did you even use? You just mentioned entanglement and asserted that science supports some of these premonition/psychic events being 'true' or 'real'. Please provide the evidence for your claims.

(June 16, 2015 at 11:17 am)comet Wrote:

(June 16, 2015 at 9:12 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Well, that's nice.  No idea what you're trying to imply 'happened in my youth'.



I'm literally just asking for some examples of "actual" events of this kind of premonition or psychic phenomena or somesuch.

well, the actual events are the posters.  I gave one that I don't even believe happened.  There are two.  
Next, I said go ask any hospital worker, well actually a large group of them, and ask them the crazy stuff they saw.
 
The sheer volume of claims in this area means at least a small percentage is from honest people just stating what they saw.  Remember fat man, I don't have a belief system to defend.   So just flat out dismissing observations because it doesn't match my belief system isn't my thing.   I mean because you can say "nope" to millions of observations no matter what doesn't mean logical people have too. 

now remember fat man, this is not about magic at the corner palm reader's.  This is about a close family member feeling something awful just happened to somebody they love dearly.  

If you honestly think that a large number of anecdotes is evidence for anything scientifically, then you don't understand science. And call me a cynic but I have a sneaking suspicion that you also don't understand quantum mechanics (incoming wiki-pasta, I'll bet), because just about nobody understands quantum mechanics.

(June 16, 2015 at 11:09 am)Cato Wrote:

(June 16, 2015 at 8:54 am)comet Wrote: But entanglement suggest that it is very possible.

Bullshit.

almond joy's got nuts mounds don't.

(June 16, 2015 at 11:18 am) pid=\966110' Wrote:What 'science' did you even use?  You just mentioned entanglement and asserted that science supports some of these premonition/psychic events being 'true' or 'real'.  Please provide the evidence for your claims.

you are not really that well versed in science are ya fat man.  
 
All he asked was for something logical for his experience.  I gave him some. Its only about a mechanism for a close family member feeling the pain of another family member.  because you don't know enough to see it isn't my problem. Toss in that NASA did find that "space is something".  They do not know what it is, but it suggest that everything is connected.  we can toss in magnetic fields and the freedom of electrons to move about too.  But my guess is you are only intrested in your emotionally based belief maintaining the safety of your world view.
 
And be clear, I made no claims of certainty, I only gave "possible".  I even admitted vauge.  You are just defending a belief system at all cost.  
 

I have no idea what relevance that had to my question. That's something I'd expect to see in a Chopra pamphlet.

to OP:  just my original answer to you before it get twisted up.     I underlined the important parts.  just incase fat man starts railing me again. 

These events happen.  Many are faked but a few are real.  My sister was having a baby.  My mom and I were sitting in our living room at home.  My mom grabbed her stomach and said "oh my she just had her baby".  If I didn't see it myself I would not have believed it.

At this point these events are not repeatable.  But entanglement suggest that it is very possible.  It's just that people take "possible" to mean they can control it.  It's kind of like "professionals" in sports, or any other field, they are actually freaks of nature and not normal.  Labron James is an example. A person with that mixture of talent happened one time in my life.  

So maybe some people are more connected than others. The data shows entanglement is real.  But it doesn't show that it can affect us on the level that my mom had.  Atheism is only a non belief in "a type of god".  It doesn't mean we ignore observations.  don't let the religous athiest tell you otherwise.

sorry man, thats the best science can do for now. we die not knowing.

That's just flatly bullshit.

Comet, you are roughly on the same level as Spirit Science right now. That is not a good thing. Stop being absurd.