I was helping a client who came through to me the other day to find vacancies and I stumbled upon a job offer from HM Prisons for a Muslim Chaplain, oh my non-existent god, the annual pay was £36,000 to £50,000 depending on experience. That's three/four times my salary and they're not what I consider to be consultants regardless of what they may tell you about supposedly 'reforming' Islam convert extremists (bullshit).

Can you imagine the burden this is having on the taxpayer? I thought these bastards were in prison to be, you know, punished, i.e. to serve a sentence, not to be radicalized and further their deep-rooted hatred for society.

And as for arguing for their rehabilitation? Let them rot for all I care. Anyone convicted for a foiled dirty-bomb/terrorist attack has essentially forfeited all their human rights in any case, I'd personally deport them with or without their bloody passports and ban them from entry into the country ever again.

In the US, prisons are supposed to be for rehabilitation. It generally doesn't work out that way, but that's what they are nominally for. I don't know how you guys do it over there.

Also, most terrorists ( & Islamists in general) are brainwashed. Maybe they are trying to revert some of that?

It would best if the student would afterwards never get out.

Religion shouldn't be taught in prison. Most likely, that's what got them there in the first place (a religion-fueled crime). I do agree rehabilitation is a waste. If you killed, raped, or committed some other serious crime, I think you've given up your rights.

P.S. What's always confused me: Why do they give 100+ year sentences? That makes no sense.

Absolutely not. A statistic said that approximately 92% of inmates are religious. Do we really want them to become even more deranged by teaching them the bullshit while incarcerated?

(October 1, 2010 at 2:20 pm)Chuck Wrote: It would best if the student would afterwards never get out.

Equally true of seminaries.

I think that should be a personal choice.

(October 1, 2010 at 2:56 pm)chasm Wrote: P.S. What's always confused me: Why do they give 100+ year sentences? That makes no sense.

To make sure witches and wizards serve their full sentence.

In case a prisoner has so little to do with his time that he accidentally invents an elixir of life?

Definately religion shouldn't be taught in prison. If anything these chaplains -muslim or christian- who are trying to convert people in there are just taking advantage of people already in a desperate situation who're more likely to be influenced or just pretend to have "seen the light" for the sake of the parole board.

As far as rehabilition in prison goes... it's just a delusion. Prisons were created originaly to remove people from society without going through the hassle of having to justify an execution. They were designed as cages, not designed to rehabilitate, the idea of rehabilitation inside a prison is a fairly new one and i believe it's just an attempt at justifying the continued existance and creation of more prisons.