These are some of the prophecies taken from the book of Revelation. I realize that some  Christians view these as a metaphor so this thread isn't directed at them; although, of course, they can take part in the thread. There are many Christians who believe that their god will destroy the world and yet is still a god of love.

You have to remember when you read the verses that the bible says that the beast's mark will be needed to buy food so some people who receive it probably only want to feed their children. They will be  punished for being good parents

How is this god any different than the OT god?

Revelation 9

Quote:3And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. 4They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. 5They were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it strikes. 6During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them.

So for five months, god is going to torture people.
Revelation 14

Quote:17Another angel came out of the temple in heaven, and he too had a sharp sickle. 18Still another angel, who had charge of the fire, came from the altar and called in a loud voice to him who had the sharp sickle, “Take your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of grapes from the earth’s vine, because its grapes are ripe.” 19The angel swung his sickle on the earth, gathered its grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God’s wrath. 20They were trampled in the winepress outside the city, and blood flowed out of the press, rising as high as the horses’ bridles for a distance of 1,600 stadia.c

Think about the amount of blood that would need to be in order to come up to a horse's bridle for over a hundred miles. The link mentions 183 miles!

http://inaweofeverything.blogspot.com/20...bible.html

Revelation 16

Quote:1Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go, pour out the seven bowls of God’s wrath on the earth.”

2The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.

3The second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it turned into blood like that of a dead person, and every living thing in the sea died.

4The third angel poured out his bowl on the rivers and springs of water, and they became blood. 5Then I heard the angel in charge of the waters say:

“You are just in these judgments, O Holy One,
you who are and who were;
6for they have shed the blood of your holy people and your prophets,
and you have given them blood to drink as they deserve.”
7And I heard the altar respond:

“Yes, Lord God Almighty,
true and just are your judgments.”
8The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was allowed to scorch people with fire. 9They were seared by the intense heat and they cursed the name of God, who had control over these plagues, but they refused to repent and glorify him.

10The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness. People gnawed their tongues in agony 11and cursed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, but they refused to repent of what they had done.

12The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. 13Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.

15“Look, I come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays awake and remains clothed, so as not to go naked and be shamefully exposed.”

16Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.

17The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, “It is done!” 18Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since mankind has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. 21From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds,a fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.

(July 1, 2015 at 8:50 am)Nope Wrote: You have to remember when you read the verses that the bible says that the beast's mark will be needed to buy food so some people who receive it probably only want to feed their children.

This was prophesizing the racket whereby Christians mark down converts simply because the destitute listened to their testimony in exchange for food.

What's really interesting is that god could have just used his superpowers to poof the world into the way he wanted it, but instead we get this showy bloodbath. Even at the very end God can't help but try to prove to everyone just how big his dick is. A human that behaved like that would be considered to suffer from the deepest feelings of inadequacy.

(July 1, 2015 at 8:50 am)Nope Wrote: How is this god any different than the OT god?

It's not.

What I find funny is that Xtians often assert that the New Testament is somewhat more 'progressive' or less barbaric than the Old Testament. However, in the Old Testament, the concept of hell, the place of eternal punishment isn't even conceived. For me, the notion of hell is one of the most barbaric things to come out of this religion, and it only came about after Jebus so wonderfully sacrificed himself to himself for the rest of us because we are all so sinful.

So one of the most cruel and totalitarian aspects of christianity, hell, actually comes from the New Testament. The only difference between the two testaments is that the Old Testament was somewhat more blunt about its barbarism, the New Testament less so. But it's still there. It's the same fucked up god.

As it was said in the OP God is Love.

So the question then becomes Does the Love of God extend to everyone?

To answer this we must first understand what 'love' is. Because The 'Love' of God is not directly tied to the English definition of the word. In the Greek the word that describes God's love is Agape. In the greek when we think of love we think of the words, Phila (love between friends) Eros (erotic love) Storge (familial love) this is not what Agape describes. Agape is a choice God makes, or it is a choice we make to love God. This is not a give or take relationship as nothing we can do will ever merit what God offers when His Agape is extended to us. At the same time agape is not given to everyone. that is the purpose of this life. to separate those who want Agape from God from those who do not. Those who do not want Agape neither deserve it nor will they ever get it. Without Agape from God they are then subject to His wrath for the part they play, and the lives the lead in sin and evil.

So the short answer to the question does God love everyone? no. He loved us enough to give us a shot at redemption, but for those who do not accept His offer, and wish to remain in sin.. They will never know Agape/love From God.

So the term God is love, should read "God is Agape" and Agape is given to all those who A/S/K for it/Him. Don't fool yourself into thinking God is bound to your ideas of what 'love' is supposed to be.

Sounds like extortion.

(July 1, 2015 at 11:23 am)Cato Wrote: Sounds like extortion.

Yeah and Drich is obviously okay with it.

(July 1, 2015 at 11:24 am)Napoléon Wrote:

(July 1, 2015 at 11:23 am)Cato Wrote: Sounds like extortion.

Yeah and Drich is obviously okay with it.

Drich is stupid.

(July 1, 2015 at 11:25 am)Chuck Wrote: Drich is stupid.

I'd say that's a wrap.

Quote:Sounds like extortion.

Sounds like Drippy's customary bullshit.