I'm not a biologist, so I can't say anything about cause. However, from observation and no small amount of common sense, I am relatively certain that "Choice" isn't part of the equation.

(July 5, 2015 at 1:51 pm)polar bear Wrote: 2. If it is, will homosexuals eventually become extinct because of their lack of ability to reproduce, thus eventually losing the recessive gene?

That in and of itself wouldn't make the gene "go away". Remember that if you have a couple where both have the recessive gene, three out of four of their children will have that gene. If only one parent has it, still one in two will have that gene.

I'm not saying homosexuality is the result of a single recessive gene, but rather that these genes can stay "hidden" in a population with a relatively low rate of occurrence. Take Tay Sachs, for example: it affects children with a 100% mortality rate, so, by definition, they never get to reproduce. Yet, it still survives in the gene pool as a recessive genes. It's bad enough that Jewish families are encouraged to get screened for the gene before starting a family.

We just have to live with the fact that :

(July 5, 2015 at 5:43 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: But the thing is, homosexuals are reproducing. Through surrogate mothers for gay males and sperm donorship for females, openly gay people are still having children probably at the same rate closeted homosexuals would have done before being gay was legalised. Again I think this is a misconception people make too much, being gay doesn't mean you are physically incapable of having children, you just can't have them with the same sex.

Actually no, in my country a few decades ago being gay was illegal (In public) and strongly frowned upon so gays married and had kids like everyone else - I don't think it is that hard to have sex with someone you're not attracted to if you feel a strong sense of duty and in this case it was about gays disguising their sexual orientation (male gays I mean) - I'm not attracted to men but if there was a reason for me to have sex with one I think I would be perfectly capable of doing it

(July 7, 2015 at 8:48 am)Dystopia Wrote: I don't think it is that hard to have sex with someone you're not attracted to if you feel a strong sense of duty

Speaking from experience... you don't even need a strong sense of duty. Just a lot of alcohol. Or a blindfold.

Alternatively, you can always do like a friend of mine who used the motto "Everything with a hole is fuckable".

(July 7, 2015 at 9:01 am)Dystopia Wrote: Alternatively, you can always do like a friend of mine who used the motto "Everything with a hole is fuckable".

I bet he wound up in prison with a motto like that.

"Any hole is a goal" has a better ring to it, although yeah kinda questionable haha

(July 7, 2015 at 9:01 am)Dystopia Wrote: Alternatively, you can always do like a friend of mine who used the motto "Everything with a hole is fuckable".

Like the guy who was driving home from work one day and started feeling horny. It was a two hour commute and he still had an hour to go when he realized that he just wasn't going to make it. He noticed that he was driving past a pumpkin patch. He stopped the car and got out. He picked up a pumpkin, cut a hole in it and started going to town. Then a cop came up to see what he was doing.
cop: Are you screwing that pumpkin?
Man: (looking down shocked) Is it midnight already?