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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:13 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 11:10 pm)huss88ein Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 11:03 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Drugs are bad for certain people, but I agree, they should be a choice. I don't like drugs but I don't think the government should have any say in whether I am allowed to use mind altering substances.
As long as it is between two consenting adults with no power differential, I don't see a problem with it. Gross, but none of my business.
It is bad because it is taking advantage of the weak to benefit America's oil run economy. It is bad because a very small number of greedy assholes have decided to milk this planet for every last drop of oil and make a killing doing it. America is a bully and we play world police far too often. Not sure what this has to do with religion. It's money and more money equals more power.
It isn't bad. So long as there are no children around. Who cares. A penis is a penis. A vagina is a vagina. Tits are tits. Meh. Then drug dealers aren't bad either cause they are giving the product that people demand and have the right to.
Drug dealers wouldn't necessarily be "bad" if drugs weren't illegal.
Quote:So is prostitution because it is a choice after all.
I don't see anything "bad" about prostitution.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:20 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 11:11 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 11:10 pm)huss88ein Wrote: Then drug dealers aren't bad either cause they are giving the product that people demand and have the right to. Correct.
(July 15, 2015 at 11:10 pm)huss88ein Wrote: So is prostitution because it is a choice after all. Correct. So imagine living in a city where prostitutes are everywhere cause they have the right to.
And people are doing drugs which cause a temporary loss of mind which will make them commit crimes suicide and rape among many other things and the human life expectancy will be lower because most of the drug doers will die in an early age.
And naked peoplw are in public walking the streets .
And these drugs because they are legal will eventually be sold in markets or pharmacies at least and thus find a way to the children hands .
Yukkkk .Thats a society I don't want to live in thank u.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:20 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 10:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 10:30 pm)huss88ein Wrote: How about drugs rates how about prostitution rates how about rape rates how about many other rates which cites that people are lost without a relegion and doing whatever pleases them.
CITATION, not CLAIMS.
You're not really expecting him to back up his bullshit are you?!?
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:23 pm
The guy sounds second generation standing up straight!
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:24 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 11:20 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 10:34 pm)Beccs Wrote: CITATION, not CLAIMS.
You're not really expecting him to back up his bullshit are you?!? Others already did thats why I didn't bother doing it.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:26 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 11:24 pm)huss88ein Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 11:20 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: You're not really expecting him to back up his bullshit are you?!? Others already did thats why I didn't bother doing it.
Who has supported your bullshit claims?!?
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:28 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 11:20 pm)huss88ein Wrote: So imagine living in a city where prostitutes are everywhere cause they have the right to.
And people are doing drugs which cause a temporary loss of mind which will make them commit crimes suicide and rape among many other things and the human life expectancy will be lower because most of the drug doers will die in an early age.
And naked peoplw are in public walking the streets .
And these drugs because they are legal will eventually be sold in markets or pharmacies at least and thus find a way to the children hands .
Yukkkk .Thats a society I don't want to live in thank u.
Just because people can doesn't mean they will. If all of those things were legal tomorrow, I wouldn't partake in any of them.
Hussein, NONE of those rules come from religion. Not a single one. Decency laws exist in societies because we have deemed them to be appropriate. The Quran doesn't say jack shit about crystal meth. If prostitution were legal there would not be countless men and women prowling the streets.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:31 pm
(July 15, 2015 at 7:25 pm)huss88ein Wrote: For stater the sense of morality has been rationalized in older societies by a religious foundations and with the absence of these foundations what is forbidding people from being unethical? what is the determinant for right and wrong if not relegion ?
Yeah, Catholic Lady already started a thread about this. If you need your god to be good, then please, do not quit believing.
Do no, however, mistake that as an argument for your god's existence. It is only an argument for your own moral depravity.
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:34 pm
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(July 15, 2015 at 11:26 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 11:24 pm)huss88ein Wrote: Others already did thats why I didn't bother doing it.
Who has supported your bullshit claims?!? Well you can read it on BBC News
(July 15, 2015 at 11:31 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: (July 15, 2015 at 7:25 pm)huss88ein Wrote: For stater the sense of morality has been rationalized in older societies by a religious foundations and with the absence of these foundations what is forbidding people from being unethical? what is the determinant for right and wrong if not relegion ?
Yeah, Catholic Lady already started a thread about this. If you need your god to be good, then please, do not quit believing.
Do no, however, mistake that as an argument for your god's existence. It is only an argument for your own moral depravity. It is just a discussion dude chill out
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RE: Can an atheist be ethical like theists
July 15, 2015 at 11:38 pm
Oh right, your citation is "you can read it on the BBC".
How typical.
Okay, then Muslim societies are the most vicious, crime ridden societies on the planet.
My citation: It says so somewhere on the internet.
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