Herr Von Popenfuhrer is still around and he wouldn't like it.

(July 17, 2015 at 1:10 pm)whateverist Wrote: On the other hand being "redeemed" is right up there with being "prayed for".  Neither does me any discernable good.  I just hear them as people wishing me well.  Not really sure what else to do with it.

It may very well be people wishing me well and I wouldn't say for certain they aren't just trying to be nice, but it's still condescending as fuck, because it implies that you need to be prayed for, as in there's something wrong with you and also that the person praying is somehow magically superior to you in terms of brownie points with the big guy and has the authority to ask him to fix you. Personally I find this incredibly insulting.

I was once told by a jesus-obsessed acquaintance that she would pray for me and in response I said something along the lines of 'tell god I love satan's dick'

(July 17, 2015 at 1:10 pm)whateverist Wrote: Sorry Cath-y but I've been reading this in your signature line.  I'm conflicted because, on the one hand, I like the current pope for his inclusiveness and reasonableness.

I like him for his statements on social issues, I don't like him for his dogma. I don't have to buy the whole package to agree with someone saying the right things occasionally.

As for the redeeming issue, my always repeated point still stands. Given the trinity, what was the sacrifice and what for?

(July 17, 2015 at 1:28 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: For the things that I need redemption from, he does not have the power, authority or ability.

You may be kidding or baiting, but if you are serious, then know that there is nothing in your life that God cannot heal or change.

(July 17, 2015 at 2:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Herr Von Popenfuhrer is still around and he wouldn't like it.

Sorry, that's just plain stupid. He was in the Hitler Youth, which was mandatory, given his date of birth. There's everything to not like about him, starting with his career and ending with his term as pope, but that's just ludicrous and baseless.

(July 17, 2015 at 2:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Herr Von Popenfuhrer is still around and he wouldn't like it.

(July 17, 2015 at 6:32 pm)abaris Wrote:

(July 17, 2015 at 2:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Herr Von Popenfuhrer is still around and he wouldn't like it.

Sorry, that's just plain stupid. He was in the Hitler Youth, which was mandatory, given his date of birth. There's everything to not like about him, starting with his career and ending with his term as pope, but that's just ludicrous and baseless.

^This.

Minimalist is a lapsed Catholic who needs to go to confession.

"The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..."

Oh sweet! *does some mild sinning*

"Hey stop or you'll burn in hell!"

...but you just said...

Fuck the pope and fuck the lord!

redeemed all of us for himself to himself

(July 17, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:

(July 17, 2015 at 1:28 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: For the things that I need redemption from, he does not have the power, authority or ability.

You may be kidding or baiting, but if you are serious, then know that there is nothing in your life that God cannot heal or change.

Still as delusional as every Randy. I will not be part of reinforcing your dual delusions.