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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 8, 2012 at 9:19 am)CliveStaples Wrote: (July 8, 2012 at 8:29 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Because they go around claiming it is real.
And why does that require them to have proof?
And why do... |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 3:31 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: But where's the question begging? The KCA doesn't say "Everything begins to exist except for this one thing." It says:
1) Everything that begins to ex... |
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July 6, 2012 at 5:54 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 3:02 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (July 6, 2012 at 2:52 pm)ktulu Wrote: I'm not sure how this helps you in any way, but I'm sure you will impress me with a mindblowing punchline.
You ar... |
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July 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 2:32 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: (July 6, 2012 at 2:16 pm)ktulu Wrote: lol,
very good self refutation on the last line. :)
If THE CAUSE began to exist it would be x.
The argument is... |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 2:25 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There isn't scientific evidence that the last big bang was the beginning of the universe, but there is scientific evidence, that the universe must have h... |
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July 6, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 2:12 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: What you guys aren't realizing is that the premise that use to be disputed is "the universe began to exist". Atheists long before scientific evidence cam... |
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July 6, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 1:56 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: (July 6, 2012 at 1:45 pm)ktulu Wrote: Well, it is question begging because premise 1 breaks all things down into things that begin to exist, and things... |
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July 6, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 1:57 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (July 6, 2012 at 1:55 pm)ktulu Wrote: hehe, yes, that is the conclusion, but it is question begging because you are using it in your premise. :)
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July 6, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 1:53 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (July 6, 2012 at 1:45 pm)ktulu Wrote: 1. Everything that begins to exist, except for THE CAUSE has a cause.
No the conclusion is that the cause didn't... |
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July 6, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 1:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: @ktulu Oh sure, so long as we're willing to create some never-before heard of god to argue over, we could argue that point all day long. We'd only be arguing ... |
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July 6, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 1:36 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: (July 6, 2012 at 1:32 pm)ktulu Wrote: KCA is question begging "the cause", the conclusion is not sound. It's a bout as flawed an argument as they come... |
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July 6, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 1:17 pm)jerNYC Wrote: Quote:We don't need a reason not to believe in God unless we think we've seen some pretty tempting indication of god activity. I tend to save my effort for fi... |
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July 6, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 1:21 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (July 6, 2012 at 1:11 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: What about the Kalaam cosmological argument?
1. Everything which begins to exist has a cause
2. The univers... |
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July 6, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
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Thread: Evangelicals Disrupt Arab Festival with Pig’s Head on Pole
Post: RE: Evangelicals Disrupt Arab Festival with Pig’s ...
| (July 6, 2012 at 12:41 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: (July 6, 2012 at 12:28 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Unfortunately this is very true.
ROFL
Oh man, that's good. That's so fucking good. What a perfect ex... |
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July 6, 2012 at 1:06 pm |
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Thread: Why do you not believe in God?
Post: RE: Why do you not believe in God?
| (July 6, 2012 at 11:44 am)CliveStaples Wrote: (July 6, 2012 at 11:36 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: I started off gullible, gradually became more skeptical, and some time afer I stopped believing in Bigf... |
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July 6, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
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Thread: Hello Atheist Forums people.
Post: RE: Hello Atheist Forums people.
| (July 6, 2012 at 11:28 am)Taucher Wrote: Hello Internet,
I am a 33 year old man who lives in London, UK. I am an atheist and am married to a catholic.
I was raised by atheist parents but went to ... |
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July 6, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
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Thread: Hello All
Post: RE: Hello All
| (July 6, 2012 at 9:59 am)whateverist Wrote: Welcome.
What is "RS" please?
it's another atheist forum. rationalresponders dot com. I don't want to post the link because I'm not sure on what the po... |
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July 6, 2012 at 11:59 am |
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Thread: Video Error: Grey circle with a white exclaimation mark inside.
Post: RE: Video Error: Grey circle with a white exclaima...
| (July 5, 2012 at 12:55 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: As far as I can tell different OS have had the same problem and my browser is standard google which is too widely used to be the problem.
I can honestly... |
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July 5, 2012 at 1:14 am |
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Thread: Fear of dying because of my views
Post: RE: Fear of dying because of my views
| (July 4, 2012 at 8:47 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Have you ever had a dreamless sleep? Your eyes shut, you drift off and then... nothing. But it isn't frightening or disconcerting, its soothing. Your mus... |
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July 5, 2012 at 1:01 am |
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Thread: Video Error: Grey circle with a white exclaimation mark inside.
Post: RE: Video Error: Grey circle with a white exclaima...
| (July 5, 2012 at 12:47 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Stop me if this sounds familiar:
You're on youtube, you press play and enjoy a brief moment of anticipation as the video loads... except it doesn't load... |
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July 5, 2012 at 12:49 am |
