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Daylight Robbery: Far Right in Raid on Low-Income Households
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RE: Daylight Robbery: Far Right in Raid on Low-Income Households
Yes, I was talking about the insanity of putting the very clowns who caused our problem back in power and expecting them to do something different....when they have announced with great fanfare that they will not.[/u]
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RE: Daylight Robbery: Far Right in Raid on Low-Income Households
(October 20, 2010 at 8:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yes, I was talking about the insanity of putting the very clowns who caused our problem back in power and expecting them to do something different....when they have announced with great fanfare that they will not.[/u]

That's not entirely true. They're going to attempt to repeal every social program they can that doesn't make their rich friends richer and attempt to impeach Obama while they're at it. That's certainly something different that they've promised.
But our insanity has little to do with the UK's insanity from my imited understanding of British Politics so I'll just leave things at that.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

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RE: Daylight Robbery: Far Right in Raid on Low-Income Households
Quote:Just like over here, people are prepared to elect republicans, the same party of shitwits who caused the economic collapse in the first place because the dems have been too slow to get things back to "normal"... whatever the fuck "normal" is anymore.

Bush wasnt the cause for the GFC decades of overspending and creating an economic bubble did.
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.

You dont hate God, you hate the church game.

"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine

Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
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RE: Daylight Robbery: Far Right in Raid on Low-Income Households
" right-wing "Liberal Democrat" collaborators"

I know politics in Britain are a lot different from here in the states, but man that is a wierd combination!
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens

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- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

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RE: Daylight Robbery: Far Right in Raid on Low-Income Households
(October 21, 2010 at 6:16 am)orogenicman Wrote: " right-wing "Liberal Democrat" collaborators"

I know politics in Britain are a lot different from here in the states, but man that is a wierd combination!
Not really.

Over here all the 3 main parties are "to the right".

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Labour is traditionally an "enemy" of the Conservatives; they used to be a socialist party but during the New Labour reform in the 90's they realised that nobody wanted socialism, and they would get more votes by moving more to the right.

The Lib Dems are right-wing in some respects, but are far more about social issues (equality, etc) than anything else. The reason they went into a coalition with the Conservatives is because they wanted to get rid of the Labour government we'd had for 13 years (which has been a disaster), and because during negotiations for a possible coalition government, the Conservative party were making many many concessions, whilst the Labour party were seen as too stubborn to work with.

As David Cameron (leader of the Conservatives) said after the coalition was formed, he has described himself multiple times in the past as a "liberal Conservative". He isn't a hard right-winger, set in traditionalism; he's a progressive in many areas (as seen by the number of reforms we've had to the current systems).
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