The bad guy

[BrokenQuill92]

Um Hitler got his ideas for eugenics from us. Castration of LGBT people, purposefully giving Syphilis and other STDs to PoC, sterilizing poor and disabled people? And there are still states where the disabled can be forcibly sterilized if the parents/guardians or even the state think it's best. And the U.S. concentration camps were basically the same just without gas chambers, not that it makes up for the lives that were ruined.

I knew about the eugenics fad in the US. But that was more widespread than just the US. I also know that General Sherman was the first to use the term "Final Solution" when talking about committing genocide against a people. Sherman spoke of it toward the Plains Indians. But I don't think we can compare that to the horrible efficiency that Hitler committed with the Holocaust. He took it to a whole new level.

All I'm saying is that the U.S. can't throw stones, and to say that torturing and traumatizing millions isn't as bad a killing them is a bit disingenuous. It's not as bad because we let millions live after fucking up their lives? How kind! A total humanitarian effort right there.

[Marsellus Wallace]

we need bad to identify good, we need bad to appreciate good.

That's very . . .

i've never heard about zen before, do mean that he said something like that ?

[Marsellus Wallace]

I could've added him to the list but he is fiction that is not related to real life.

Nah? The deaths on his behalf are very real! His effect on people is extremely real. The fact that he doesn't exist makes him more dangerous because it means he cannot be killed.
The deaths in his name will go on forever!

good point, but you can't judge god or criticize his actions, cuz he's just a made up fantasy, he's an idea made by a few crazy men.

[BrokenQuill92]

Nah? The deaths on his behalf are very real! His effect on people is extremely real. The fact that he doesn't exist makes him more dangerous because it means he cannot be killed.
The deaths in his name will go on forever!

good point, but you can't judge god or criticize his actions, cuz he's just a made up fantasy, he's an idea made by a few crazy men.

You know, I actually got confused and thought you guys were talking about Voldemort for a second! Tee hee!

[Rahul]

All I'm saying is that the U.S. can't throw stones, and to say that torturing and traumatizing millions isn't as bad a killing them is a bit disingenuous. It's not as bad because we let millions live after fucking up their lives? How kind! A total humanitarian effort right there.

It's not disingenuous at all. The holocaust was much more sinister. Stripping people down, shaving their heads, and then running them through a barbwire lined trail straight into a chamber where they handed them bars of soap to keep them calm, rushing them the entire way so they don't have time to think, and then gassing them.

Yeah, that's a little worse than forced sterilization or infecting people with tuberculosis.

Rudolf Hoss reported that you knew the gassing was complete when the screams stopped. You'd find the bodies all stacked in in a pyramid as the people crawled on top of each other to try and keep above the gas.

But back to the OP, what did the US do in WWII that was as bad as Hitler?

[abaris]

But I don't think we can compare that to the horrible efficiency that Hitler committed with the Holocaust.  He took it to a whole new level.

We can't and we shouldn't compare, but I think it's important to point out that Hitler is a singularity because of industrialising the process and maybe because the coincidence of birth warranted a death sentence in his eyes. That's up for debate, since there have been some, who came at least close to harboring the same thoughts. The thought itself wasn't and still isn't in any way original. There have been and always will be those with genocidal intents.

That's why it is important to remember and to point out every instance of dehumanization of certain groups. Because it can happen again, regardless of the country or region in question.

[ignoramus]

good point, but you can't judge god or criticize his actions, cuz he's just a made up fantasy, he's an idea made by a few crazy men.

You know, I actually got confused and thought you guys were talking about Voldemort for a second! Tee hee!

BQ. You need to get these potty thoughts out of your head!  Hehe

[Rahul]

We can't and we shouldn't compare, but I think it's important to point out that Hitler is a singularity because of industrialising the process and maybe because the coincidence of birth warranted a death sentence in his eyes. That's up for debate, since there have been some, who came at least close to harboring the same thoughts. The thought itself wasn't and still isn't in any way original. There have been and always will be those with genocidal intents.

That's why it is important to remember and to point out every instance of dehumanization of certain groups. Because it can happen again, regardless of the country or region in question.

Of course. I don't think anyone is debating that. Back to the OP, the original statement was "U.S. is as much bad as hitler". I haven't found evidence to support that statement.

[Marsellus Wallace]

We can't and we shouldn't compare, but I think it's important to point out that Hitler is a singularity because of industrialising the process and maybe because the coincidence of birth warranted a death sentence in his eyes. That's up for debate, since there have been some, who came at least close to harboring the same thoughts. The thought itself wasn't and still isn't in any way original. There have been and always will be those with genocidal intents.

That's why it is important to remember and to point out every instance of dehumanization of certain groups. Because it can happen again, regardless of the country or region in question.

Of course.  I don't think anyone is debating that.  Back to the OP, the original statement was "U.S. is as much bad as hitler".  I haven't found evidence to support that statement.

hitler is just a one guy and referring all the bad things that happened in the WWII in europe to him is just gonna make him look like the ultimate evil.
U.S. is a government, a system, people like to blame individuals rather than a system more often.

and why are we so much focusing about comparing U.S. to hitler ? there are other points in the OP.