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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
August 8, 2015 at 9:06 pm
(August 8, 2015 at 9:00 pm)Shuffle Wrote: (August 8, 2015 at 8:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Apart from stating that we can't know for sure who is in/goes to Hell, the issue is otherwise left pretty open for members to form their own opinions. Opinions on facts? Your opinions are of no concern to reality. My opinion can be that the sky is green, but the sky continues to be blue.
Whether or not atheists go to Hell solely for being atheists can only be an opinion, as we have zero way of knowing who is going/has gone to Hell. My self, along with many fellow Catholics, have the opinion that no, they do not.
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
August 8, 2015 at 9:35 pm
(August 8, 2015 at 6:11 pm)Iroscato Wrote: ... The maths (not math, yeh fecking american pigdogs, you) just does not add up.
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Okay, that's it! You goddamn commie foreign bastard! Both are such that one can easily understand their meaning, so there is no advantage to either on that. "Math" is superior to "maths" because the whole fucking point is to abbreviate, that is, shorten, "mathematics." "Math," being shorter than "maths," is therefore superior.
We should probably just nuke you goddamned limey bastards for this, once and for all!
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
August 8, 2015 at 9:41 pm
(August 8, 2015 at 9:35 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: (August 8, 2015 at 6:11 pm)Iroscato Wrote: ... The maths (not math, yeh fecking american pigdogs, you) just does not add up.
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Okay, that's it! You goddamn commie foreign bastard! Both are such that one can easily understand their meaning, so there is no advantage to either on that. "Math" is superior to "maths" because the whole fucking point is to abbreviate, that is, shorten, "mathematics." "Math," being shorter than "maths," is therefore superior.
We should probably just nuke you goddamned limey bastards for this, once and for all!
Ugh, typical yankie lowest common denominator thinking. "Shorter words = better!"
This is why your education system is in such dire straits, you're all being fed this path of least resistance bollocks.
Should come over there and stick a Trident nuke up your arse (not ass), I should 
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
August 8, 2015 at 9:45 pm
(August 8, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Whether or not atheists go to Hell solely for being atheists can only be an opinion, as we have zero way of knowing who is going/has gone to Hell. My self, along with many fellow Catholics, have the opinion that no, they do not. I think there is some kind of communication breakdown here. I think that you are using the word "opinion" in the place of the word belief. If this is the case, then you should really buy a dictionary.
Opinion- a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
Belief- an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
Do those terms seem synonymous? Here are some examples:
Opinion- I like the taste of bread.
Belief- I do not accept that bread exists.
Your opinion does not affect the natural world, however your belief, if correct does.
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
August 8, 2015 at 10:12 pm
(August 8, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Iroscato Wrote: (August 8, 2015 at 9:35 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: Okay, that's it! You goddamn commie foreign bastard! Both are such that one can easily understand their meaning, so there is no advantage to either on that. "Math" is superior to "maths" because the whole fucking point is to abbreviate, that is, shorten, "mathematics." "Math," being shorter than "maths," is therefore superior.
We should probably just nuke you goddamned limey bastards for this, once and for all!
Ugh, typical yankie lowest common denominator thinking. "Shorter words = better!"
This is why your education system is in such dire straits, you're all being fed this path of least resistance bollocks.
Should come over there and stick a Trident nuke up your arse (not ass), I should
Jesus fucking christ! Do you always want to use more letters when fewer will get the job done? "Arse" instead of "ass" is another example of your wasteful ways. And don't fucking get me started on "colour" instead of "color!" No wonder there is no more British Empire! You have squandered all of your resources on extra ink and paper! And now you clutter the internet with useless extra letters! You waste your lives typing more letters than are needed to communicate. It is a wonder you do not spell "tea" as "teaeeeaeaeeeeaeaeeeeeaeeeeee." That would better fit your silly British ways!
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
August 8, 2015 at 10:17 pm
(August 8, 2015 at 10:12 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: (August 8, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Iroscato Wrote: Ugh, typical yankie lowest common denominator thinking. "Shorter words = better!"
This is why your education system is in such dire straits, you're all being fed this path of least resistance bollocks.
Should come over there and stick a Trident nuke up your arse (not ass), I should
Jesus fucking christ! Do you always want to use more letters when fewer will get the job done? "Arse" instead of "ass" is another example of your wasteful ways. And don't fucking get me started on "colour" instead of "color!" No wonder there is no more British Empire! You have squandered all of your resources on extra ink and paper! And now you clutter the internet with useless extra letters! You waste your lives typing more letters than are needed to communicate. It is a wonder you do not spell "tea" as "teaeeeaeaeeeeaeaeeeeeaeeeeee." That would better fit your silly British ways!
Ur rite! We shuld all type like this!
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
August 8, 2015 at 10:21 pm
(August 8, 2015 at 9:45 pm)Shuffle Wrote: (August 8, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Whether or not atheists go to Hell solely for being atheists can only be an opinion, as we have zero way of knowing who is going/has gone to Hell. My self, along with many fellow Catholics, have the opinion that no, they do not. I think there is some kind of communication breakdown here. I think that you are using the word "opinion" in the place of the word belief. If this is the case, then you should really buy a dictionary.
Opinion- a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
Belief- an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
Do those terms seem synonymous? Here are some examples:
Opinion- I like the taste of bread.
Belief- I do not accept that bread exists.
Your opinion does not affect the natural world, however your belief, if correct does.
I don't think it is grammatically incorrect to say "it is my opinion that atheists don't automatically go to Hell for being atheist."
But if it is (and it may be), by all means, replace that word opinion with the word belief if that makes it easier for you to understand the message I am trying to convey.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
August 9, 2015 at 12:37 am
(August 8, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (August 8, 2015 at 9:00 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Opinions on facts? Your opinions are of no concern to reality. My opinion can be that the sky is green, but the sky continues to be blue.
Whether or not atheists go to Hell solely for being atheists can only be an opinion, as we have zero way of knowing who is going/has gone to Hell. My self, along with many fellow Catholics, have the opinion that no, they do not. According to the fairy tale there are three options when a person dies. He goes to the sea, he goes to death, or he goes to hell. Even Jesus went to hell. The thing is that everyone makes bail for Judgment Day. And just because a person has been in hell it doesn't prevent him from getting into the golden cube called New Jerusalem, but only if he's a member of one of the twelve tribes of Isreal. If a Jew doesn't make the cut he's either kept outside of the wall around New Jerusalem or tossed into the lake of fire with all of the Gentiles. It's biblical.
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
August 9, 2015 at 12:48 am
(August 9, 2015 at 12:37 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (August 8, 2015 at 9:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Whether or not atheists go to Hell solely for being atheists can only be an opinion, as we have zero way of knowing who is going/has gone to Hell. My self, along with many fellow Catholics, have the opinion that no, they do not. According to the fairy tale there are three options when a person dies. He goes to the sea, he goes to death, or he goes to hell. Even Jesus went to hell. The thing is that everyone makes bail for Judgment Day. And just because a person has been in hell it doesn't prevent him from getting into the golden cube called New Jerusalem, but only if he's a member of one of the twelve tribes of Isreal. If a Jew doesn't make the cut he's either kept outside of the wall around New Jerusalem or tossed into the lake of fire with all of the Gentiles. It's biblical.
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
August 9, 2015 at 2:26 am
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