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RE: The garden of eden.
November 16, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Shouldnt it be more like the forrest of eden or something?
gardens are something you have at the back of your house.
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RE: The garden of eden.
November 16, 2010 at 4:14 pm
(November 16, 2010 at 3:58 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Shouldnt it be more like the forrest of eden or something?
gardens are something you have at the back of your house.
The "orchard of Eden".
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RE: The garden of eden.
November 16, 2010 at 4:26 pm
But it was by some rivers and the artistic impression given is that its more open than a forest, with glades and so on. So I would say it would be more like a wood. Maybe not too big, not too small, perhaps something like a 100 acres.
Yes, that's it 100 Acre Wood!
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RE: The garden of eden.
November 16, 2010 at 9:38 pm
(November 16, 2010 at 4:26 pm)Loki_999 Wrote: But it was by some rivers and the artistic impression given is that its more open than a forest, with glades and so on. So I would say it would be more like a wood. Maybe not too big, not too small, perhaps something like a 100 acres.
Yes, that's it 100 Acre Wood!
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RE: The garden of eden.
November 16, 2010 at 9:49 pm
(November 16, 2010 at 4:26 pm)Loki_999 Wrote: Christopher Robin is God, Pooh is Adam, and Eve is... erm.... Piglet!
Would Tigger be the serpent?
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RE: The garden of eden.
November 17, 2010 at 12:37 am
(November 12, 2010 at 9:47 am)Skipper Wrote: Seeing as the only reason we as humans started living outside of the garden was due to "Adams original sin" was it's gods original plan that they would eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil or did he honestly not know that they would dis obey him and listen to the talking snake?
It just seems that as an all knowing being he would of known they would listen to the snake he put there and eat from the tree.
Obviously I don't believe in a Christian god or the story of Eden, however it just shows another example of god "tricking" people and he himself creating the sin and the reasons we are punished for it. Of course the religious here will say it's all a test and there cant be good without evil and it's all part of learning from our mistakes so we can except god blah blah blah. But I thought it might be worth pointing out yet another ridiculous part of their book.
Also, where is the garden now? Did it fall into dis repair? Did Cherubim just forget to prune the rose bushes? Was god lazy with his lovely garden and should he have got Alan Titchmarsh on the job?
Skipper it's not a snake .... it's now a legless serpant what ever that looks like. Yes God did know that Adam would sin and bring into existance many terrible things. However God did not create sin satan did not create sin, he did allow it to manifest itself in him when he became jealous of God and rebelled against Him. So sin existed before Adam brought it into this world but it never was a creation. Sin is being unlike God in your nature, there is no way that God could have created sin because God's nature never changes.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The garden of eden.
November 17, 2010 at 4:09 am
(November 16, 2010 at 9:49 pm)Lethe Wrote: (November 16, 2010 at 4:26 pm)Loki_999 Wrote: Christopher Robin is God, Pooh is Adam, and Eve is... erm.... Piglet!
Would Tigger be the serpent?
And how does Eeyore fit in this?
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RE: The garden of eden.
November 17, 2010 at 8:16 am
Eeyore only came into the garden after the fall, when depression came into the world.
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RE: The garden of eden.
November 17, 2010 at 9:49 am
(November 17, 2010 at 8:16 am)Tiberius Wrote: Eeyore only came into the garden after the fall, when depression came into the world.
...and he came from the same land where Cain's wife came from.
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RE: The garden of eden.
November 19, 2010 at 12:29 am
The thing I find very interesting about the story of the Garden of Eden is how different god's behavior is from modern christianity.
That is: god is permissive, even to the point of disregarding consequence.
Whereas it could be said that many christians are controlling: making the argument that people must be forced to obey this or that for their own good.
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