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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 11:47 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 11:34 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 11:13 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: As do most who call this place home, I make no claims about the existence of any gods. I simply find no reason to believe in them as no one has ever presented a compelling claim, yourself most definitely included. You want to convince me, provide some evidence to back up your claims. Threats of hell and the contents of the buy-bull don't count. Real, testable, verifiable evidence or GTFO. so you just don't know?
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 11:48 pm
Do you know for certain that there are no dragons? Or do you just assume there aren't due to lack of evidence?
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 11:50 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 11:42 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 11:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote: What's wrong is that you're preaching, not discussing. Regurgitating all the usual clichés about how we're all in denial and will learn the truth some day is the opposite of discussion; it is shutting down discussion. If as you say that's all you have, then why are you here? Because this is not a pulpit. Take your fire 'n' brimstone outside.
what's wrong with what i'm preaching? do you say it's absolutely false
It's not if you're true or false, it's that you're preaching.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 11:52 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 11:48 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Do you know for certain that there are no dragons? Or do you just assume there aren't due to lack of evidence?
No I can't say for sure there are no dragons.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 11:55 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 11:52 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 11:48 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Do you know for certain that there are no dragons? Or do you just assume there aren't due to lack of evidence?
No I can't say for sure there are no dragons.
Then you know my state of knowledge about god.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 11:55 pm
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So, do you believe me when I say I have a dragon living in my garage?
Or, do you want evidence?!?
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 11:56 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 11:52 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 11:48 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Do you know for certain that there are no dragons? Or do you just assume there aren't due to lack of evidence?
No I can't say for sure there are no dragons.
Do you believe there are? Or even better, do you believe there is a dragon in the room where you are? You shouldn't because no matter where you look in your room, there is no sign of a dragon.
A being as grand as God should have been observed in some way after all this time and given that he is omnipresent as well, yet this has not been the case thus far.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 12:01 am
(October 8, 2015 at 11:56 pm)Irrational Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 11:52 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: No I can't say for sure there are no dragons.
Do you believe there are? Or even better, do you believe there is a dragon in the room where you are? You shouldn't because no matter where you look in your room, there is no sign of a dragon.
A being as grand as God should have been observed in some way after all this time and given that he is omnipresent as well, yet this has not been the case thus far.
Well, I know a guy who says he saw a vision of a dragon when he was falling asleep one night (he had a mild fever, he admits), and ever since then, he has "felt the presence of the dragon", and talks to it every night before bed. He's sure that dragons exist. Why don't you believe him?! 
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 12:10 am
(October 8, 2015 at 11:42 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 11:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote: What's wrong is that you're preaching, not discussing. Regurgitating all the usual clichés about how we're all in denial and will learn the truth some day is the opposite of discussion; it is shutting down discussion. If as you say that's all you have, then why are you here? Because this is not a pulpit. Take your fire 'n' brimstone outside.
what's wrong with what i'm preaching? do you say it's absolutely false
No, I'm not playing this game with you. Discussion and preaching are two entirely different things. Please engage in the former without regurgitating the latter.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 9, 2015 at 12:11 am
(October 9, 2015 at 12:01 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 11:56 pm)Irrational Wrote: Do you believe there are? Or even better, do you believe there is a dragon in the room where you are? You shouldn't because no matter where you look in your room, there is no sign of a dragon.
A being as grand as God should have been observed in some way after all this time and given that he is omnipresent as well, yet this has not been the case thus far.
Well, I know a guy who says he saw a vision of a dragon when he was falling asleep one night (he had a mild fever, he admits), and ever since then, he has "felt the presence of the dragon", and talks to it every night before bed. He's sure that dragons exist. Why don't you believe him?!
Well, ok. It's not that I don't believe him. It's that I don't want to admit it. 
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