(October 8, 2015 at 10:44 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:there isn't evidence for no God either..why should I believe your claim?(October 8, 2015 at 10:26 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: no, but don't worry there will be a day when you will see Him in His glory.
So, if you have no evidence, why should I believe your claim? No, threats of hell don't count.
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What the bible says Hell is like
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  (October 8, 2015 at 10:52 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 10:44 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: So, if you have no evidence, why should I believe your claim? No, threats of hell don't count.there isn't evidence for no God either..why should I believe your claim? What claim do you think I'm making?!?
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(October 8, 2015 at 10:53 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 10:52 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: there isn't evidence for no God either..why should I believe your claim? Sorry I'm confused... do you believe that there is a God just not the Christian God, or do you deny that there is a God completely, or are you saying you don't know and no one can know without evidence?  RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 11:10 pm
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In the face of lack of evidence for a claim, a reasonable person acts upon the lack of evidence by acting as if the the claim in not true. The longer the claim goes without evidence, the stronger the inference the claim is not true. The god claim has been around a very long time and there is still no evidence.
Additionally, the more improbable the claim, the more evidence is required to prove it. The god claim, like all supernatural claims is extremely improbable and therefore requires an extraordinary amount of evidence to prove. So in the absence of evidence of god, I simply operate on the much justified assumption that no such being exists. Show me some evidence and I'll reconsider.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
(October 8, 2015 at 11:03 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 10:53 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: What claim do you think I'm making?!? As do most who call this place home, I make no claims about the existence of any gods. I simply find no reason to believe in them as no one has ever presented a compelling claim, yourself most definitely included. You want to convince me, provide some evidence to back up your claims. Threats of hell and the contents of the buy-bull don't count. Real, testable, verifiable evidence or GTFO.
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 (October 8, 2015 at 10:44 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 10:36 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Got anything besides proselytising? Because this is a discussion forum, not a pulpit. What's wrong is that you're preaching, not discussing. Regurgitating all the usual clichés about how we're all in denial and will learn the truth some day is the opposite of discussion; it is shutting down discussion. If as you say that's all you have, then why are you here? Because this is not a pulpit. Take your fire 'n' brimstone outside.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(October 8, 2015 at 11:13 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:so you just don't know?(October 8, 2015 at 11:03 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: Sorry I'm confused... do you believe that there is a God just not the Christian God, or do you deny that there is a God completely, or are you saying you don't know and no one can know without evidence? 
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Know God, Know fear. (October 8, 2015 at 11:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 10:44 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: no what's wrong with what i'm preaching? do you say it's absolutely false (October 8, 2015 at 11:42 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 11:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote: What's wrong is that you're preaching, not discussing. Regurgitating all the usual clichés about how we're all in denial and will learn the truth some day is the opposite of discussion; it is shutting down discussion. If as you say that's all you have, then why are you here? Because this is not a pulpit. Take your fire 'n' brimstone outside. I say there is no evidence you are right. And given the enormity of your claim there should be tons of evidence.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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