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Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
#61
RE: Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
(October 26, 2015 at 3:56 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(October 26, 2015 at 3:00 pm)Evie Wrote: Naturalism is the most consistently long established norm of all...
Define natural without making a circular reference.

Nature is that from which things arise.
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#62
RE: Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
Natural means a confused mess of half-assed evolution, some sort of intended purpose by a weird supernatural being, and not being different from the norm in ways that make bigots uncomfortable.
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#63
RE: Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
Chad the pompous ass: Define "supernatural" and then give us an example of something supernatural that actually exists rather than using the whole "it's in the bible and it must be true because god wrote it" circularlity.

It's supernaturalism that is inherently circular. There's evidence of naturalism EVERYWHERE in fact it's all there is evidence of! It's anything outside it that is lacking!
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#64
RE: Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
That's a good one Benny.  I like "the sum total of all forces in the universe".
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#65
RE: Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
(October 26, 2015 at 2:32 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Science is supposed to be objective. The minute you say that one set of data requires more or less scrutiny than another you inject more subjectivity into the results. Nevertheless the most recent psi studies are very robust something ever critics have acknowledged. The early posts might have been true 20 years ago. Today its a different story.

Being objective doesn't mean having the same standard for every experiment. That would be absurd. Some experiments are more susceptible to bias, and the study has to be tailored to that.

Because that's what objective really means in this context. It means eliminating bias as much as possible.

Unfortunately for your pet claims, every time corrections are made to eliminate bias, the results disappear. That's exactly what we would expect from a false claim.
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#66
RE: Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
Here's one sample of some recent research in presentiment...make of it what you will.

http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/1...00390/full
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#67
RE: Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
(October 26, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Define fruity, as in "this tastes fruity" without making a circular reference.  We could come up with these all day, ofc, lol.
and have a ball

Fruity: something that is juicy and sweet. Maybe this belongs in the joke time thread.
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#68
RE: Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
I know something juicy and sweet that doesn't involve any balls at all.
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#69
RE: Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
(October 26, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Fruity: something that is juicy and sweet. Maybe this belongs in the joke time thread.

Pretty sure it's already in the joke time thread.   Wink
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#70
RE: Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence
I'll certainly get 'round to joining A69 eventually ... the urge will become too strong ^______________^
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