I think what you've done is fucked up WLC. You gotta understand your point before you regurgitate in on teh interwebs.
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God exists because we can imagine it
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Quote:You gotta understand your point before you regurgitate in on teh interwebs. That would put the creatards out of business.
It is setting the bar a bit high for them.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: God exists because we can imagine it
December 2, 2015 at 12:59 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2015 at 1:02 am by robvalue.)
You can say the concept of a god exists, as does the concept of anything we could possibly imagine. But there's no requirement that concepts map to anything real.
Defining what is real is a tricky business. In some ways, perception is reality, so to someone who believes the thing is real, it is real. The person will likely attribute various events to that imaginary being, and so to them, those events were really caused by that real being. But if "what is real" is considered to be the "objective reality" that we all seem to share, then no, it's not real. None of us actually experience reality, we live in the simulated interpretation our brains produce, based on an objective reality. Or possibly based on nothing at all; it's impossible to say which. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (December 2, 2015 at 12:59 am)robvalue Wrote: None of us actually experience reality, we live in the simulated interpretation our brains produce, based on an objective reality. Or possibly based on nothing at all; it's impossible to say which. My vote is on the Matrix, and I want to take this opportunity to welcome our alien overlords. (December 2, 2015 at 1:29 am)bennyboy Wrote:And then once we die in the Matrix we realize we're in a double Matrix.(December 2, 2015 at 12:59 am)robvalue Wrote: None of us actually experience reality, we live in the simulated interpretation our brains produce, based on an objective reality. Or possibly based on nothing at all; it's impossible to say which. Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
I tried to explain this idea to my wife, that we live in our own simulated version of reality. I got a glassy stare.
Me: "Have you ever thought about that before?" Mrs Robvalue: "No, and I don't care either." Fair enough. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (December 2, 2015 at 12:37 am)Minimalist Wrote:It was a thought experiment, I didn't have purpose to it, just wanted to see what people'd make outta it.Quote:You gotta understand your point before you regurgitate in on teh interwebs. Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom
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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
(December 2, 2015 at 1:32 am)robvalue Wrote: I tried to explain this idea to my wife, that we live in our own simulated version of reality. I got a glassy stare.Tell her smithy's comin' after her. Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom
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The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
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