Maajid Nawaz: Stealth Jihadist Exposed

[Excited Penguin]

Maybe you should read both authors' work and follow their activism online before listening to half-baked opinions about them over the internet.

[mralstoner]

Maybe you should read both authors' work and follow their activism online before listening to half-baked opinions about them over the internet.

Maybe you shouldn't assume that I don't.

The thing that disturbs me about Maajid is that, given his background as an Islamic fundamentalist, he presumably has a very good understanding of Islamic doctrine, and the life of Mohammed. But when he talks about Islam he is very vague, saying "Yes, there is SOMETHING in Islamic doctrine that has to do with violence" while Sam, on the other hand, is making the obvious point that Mohammed was a head-chopping barbarian.

I still don't know what Maajid is. I suspect he is more of a political actor (doing anything to make sure that Muslim immigration is not stopped, and Islam is not banned) rather than a stealth jihadist. But Islamic doctrine allows for people to disguise their motives, and act in such a way to deceive the infidel, so that we can never be sure if a moderate really is a moderate.

[mralstoner]

Kiss goodbye to the last scrap of your credibility on AF, Stoner...

If the majority of people are mindless sheep, what does that say about "credibility"? I thought atheism was all about thinking for yourself, and not being bound by authority, norms and peer pressure? Maybe I was wrong. Maybe I should get in line for my daily bread?

[Excited Penguin]

Maybe you should read both authors' work and follow their activism online before listening to half-baked opinions about them over the internet.

Maybe you shouldn't assume that I don't.

The thing that disturbs me about Maajid is that, given his background as an Islamic fundamentalist, he presumably has a very good understanding of Islamic doctrine, and the life of Mohammed. But when he talks about Islam he is very vague, saying "Yes, there is SOMETHING in Islamic doctrine that has to do with violence" while Sam, on the other hand, is making the obvious point that Mohammed was a head-chopping barbarian.

I still don't know what Maajid is. I suspect he is more of a political actor (doing anything to make sure that Muslim immigration is not stopped, and Islam is not banned) rather than a stealth jihadist. But Islamic doctrine allows for people to disguise their motives, and act in such a way to deceive the infidel, so that we can never be sure if a moderate really is a moderate.

That's ridiculous. I'll go ahead and assume you didn't read any of Maajid's work or hear him talk on the matter at least. He has publicly said he's not very pious, merely a moderate. He has condemned and is actively fighting against Islamism. Of course he has mentioned real anti-muslim bigotry and expressed his views as to a number of other topics related to muslims, since he is a muslim himself. He's just as secular and as innocous as they come, though, and he's been attacked over and over for it, just to have you believe he has some sort of secret agenda to work. Grow up.

[Excited Penguin]

Kiss goodbye to the last scrap of your credibility on AF, Stoner...

If the majority of people are mindless sheep, what does that say about "credibility"? I thought atheism was all about thinking for yourself, and not being bound by authority, norms and peer pressure? Maybe I was wrong. Maybe I should get in line for my daily bread?

You lose your credibility when you present these sorts of quasi-allegations with nothing real to back them up other than mere wacky suspicion.

[Excited Penguin]

That's not atheism you're thinking of, that's rebelliousness. I'm a rebel too, but I still think my shit through.

[mralstoner]

Maajid ... has publicly said he's not very pious, merely a moderate.

I've see him on YouTube say exactly that, and that's why I I lean towards him NOT being a stealth jihadist. But it's still feasible that he is simply blending in with the infidel. I don't know, and neither do you.

[Excited Penguin]

Maajid ... has publicly said he's not very pious, merely a moderate.

I've see him on YouTube say exactly that, and that's why I I lean towards him NOT being a stealth jihadist. But it's still feasible that he is simply blending in with the infidel. I don't know, and neither do you.

I don't know anything for sure but I assign the same probability to him being a stealth jihadist as I assign to Sam Haris being a regressive liberal who secretly believes in the Judeo-Christian God.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Maajid ... has publicly said he's not very pious, merely a moderate.

I've see him on YouTube say exactly that, and that's why I I lean towards him NOT being a stealth jihadist. But it's still feasible that he is simply blending in with the infidel. I don't know, and neither do you.

Feasible? Yes. Reasonable? No. So, what, is the entire Quilliam foundation also a rouse?

I think we do know that taking him at his word is more a reasonable stance to take seeing how candid he's been about his past and how many fundamentalists he's pissed off who have threatened him and his family with death threats.

Don't you think? Oh why do we even bother. The Internet is a great resource but it also shines a light into the fucknuttery of human delusion sometimes.

[abaris]

I didn't look at the link, stoner provided, since I assumed it to be rightwing nutjobbery anyway. Stoner's sources are nothing but. Speaking of having his head up his ass that getting brown is inevitable.

But this link is pretty close to home. Gates of Vienna plays to the turkish siege of Vienna in 1683. They're as right as can get. The authors can easily be looked up and quite a few are on the radar of the authorities. And the quotes speak for themselves. Milos Zeman, president of czechoslovakia is the same kind of populist rightwing loudmouth as Orban. Shunned by his more civilized European collegues.

I'm actually feeling sick while posting this. Stoner, I think, I said it before. You're an idiot of the worst kind. Tinfoil with brown coat. The only thing you find interesting are borderline fascist websites with enough conspiracies to keep you afloat. The only difference between them and you being that they actually have an agenda. To rile up halfwits like you to gobble up the shit they're dishing out.