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my only fear is that these revolutions will only trigger more islamism
  (January 30, 2011 at 12:39 am)Rayaan Wrote:You are very confused. There are multiple motivations animating different constituents of the protest. The Islamic brotherhood is part of the protest. They are not protesting against authoritarianism. The IB has no interest whatsoever in democracy. They are protesting against the fact that the Mubarik authoritarianism that is not an islamic theocratic authoritarianism.(January 28, 2011 at 9:54 pm)Ashendant Wrote: my only fear is that these revolutions will only trigger more islamism  (January 30, 2011 at 1:30 am)Chuck Wrote:Muslim Brotherhood did not orginize these. They just let their members to join this protests. But they're the most orginized opposition group and it's possible that they can hijack them if this riots leads to a regime change. But -for now- there's no indication of islamist involvement.(January 30, 2011 at 12:39 am)Rayaan Wrote:You are very confused. There are multiple motivations animating different constituents of the protest. The Islamic brotherhood is part of the protest. They are not protesting against authoritarianism. The IB has no interest whatsoever in democracy. They are protesting against the fact that the Mubarik authoritarianism that is not an islamic theocratic authoritarianism.(January 28, 2011 at 9:54 pm)Ashendant Wrote: my only fear is that these revolutions will only trigger more islamism V.I. Lenin Wrote:The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class shall represent and repress them in parliament. Quote:we will not be silenced, whether you're a christian, whether you're a muslim, whether you're an atheist, you will demand your goddamn rights, and we will have our rights, one way or the other! we will never be silenced! V.I. Lenin Wrote:The oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class shall represent and repress them in parliament. 
It is extremely unlikely that Egypt will end up an Islamic theocracy if this revolution is successful. "If" being the key part. I am extremely sceptical as to whether the US government will let a puppet government like Mubarak's topple to be replaced by an actual democracy, particularly since Egypt is the second largest receiver of US aid, right after Israel.
"If an injury must be done to a man, it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared" - Niccolo Macchiavelli
(January 30, 2011 at 11:29 am)Ubermensch Wrote: It is extremely unlikely that Egypt will end up an Islamic theocracy if this revolution is successful. "If" being the key part. I am extremely sceptical as to whether the US government will let a puppet government like Mubarak's topple to be replaced by an actual democracy, particularly since Egypt is the second largest receiver of US aid, right after Israel. He's using the army now, but if wikileaks is any indication, he won't just let it go to a theocracy,he'll resist everything to prevent turning into a theocracy, and his belief that it will happen if it does, at least i hope he learned a lesson
Like I said, I find it extremely unlikely that Egypt will end up a theocracy, we're likely to see the first proper democracy that country has had in years if this thing sees completion. That said, the army isn't exactly doing a lot and the police are barely present in the streets of Cairo.
"If an injury must be done to a man, it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared" - Niccolo Macchiavelli
RE: Egypt leaves the Internet
January 30, 2011 at 9:29 pm
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(January 30, 2011 at 9:22 pm)Ubermensch Wrote: Like I said, I find it extremely unlikely that Egypt will end up a theocracy, we're likely to see the first proper democracy that country has had in years if this thing sees completion. That said, the army isn't exactly doing a lot and the police are barely present in the streets of Cairo. I think Elbalderi(whatever is his name) will probably help it turn into a full-fledged democracy However Egyptian police needs a major shakeup, torturing people to solve crimes is not a good solution |
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