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TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
#81
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
Quote: And I don't quite understand what you meant by saying "You don't have to have sex with Saudi establishment figures to make millions from Quran."


Saudi funds loads of television personalities and subsidizes the sale of loads of books. If you want to be a Wahaabi Imam Saudi will pay for you. They build Mosques all over the place. Wahaabi/Salafis make millions from Saudi. And I'm saying you don't need need to be part of the huge Wahaabi machine to make money from your religion.

Anyhow, I thought Twelvers followed Jafari. But maybe I was mistaken. Many Shias are Twelvers and majority of Shias are also Jafari. If you put two together, maybe Estes likes Twelvers because they are strict like Wahaabis/Salafis. E.g. Shia equivalent of Salafis.

Yusuf can't decide if he is a scholar or not (included in my old compilation of fails, created long before the upload date suggests):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOoTqmE3S2M


To be clear, some of this food labelled as "Halal" I see in the import shops, I would not even feed it to starving Syrians. Makes you wonder who paid who to get the certification. I heard somewhere that some Halal certifiers in the West act like the Mafia and charge huge amounts for being the "most strict". Just buy unprocessed stuff I say. Some have even accused elements of Halal lobby in the West of using profits to fund "terrorists", but my main issue is the lack of accountability and transparency. If I was a Sikh, a Hindu or a Jew, I'd want to avoid Halal for religious reasons, but often it's not labelled as Halal in the main supermarkets.

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#82
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
(January 26, 2016 at 4:46 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(January 26, 2016 at 9:54 am)robvalue Wrote: I think you take some things too seriously Atlas. These guys are screwing around and having a joke.

Have you been in the humour section of our site? There's some wicked funny stuff there you know. One of the staff members acting like a cock for cheap laughs, I heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnysDz2SSMg

I don't agree with you rob.

First of all, I think Marylin is a very very smart and talented individual. If what you're saying is true, I wouldn't be having Saint & Sweet Dreams in my playlist. 

Second, I have the right to be offended when a certain comedy touches my race & my skin color. You can get what I feel, if you said the N word to a dark skinned guy in Compton. 

Third, what I cited at 15:38 is an attitude issue, I know that atheists would make fun of religion, joke about it and all. But for somebody to have a conversation with me, just to turns out that he is laughing from the inside or waiting for me to leave to make fun of me in front of others..well, sorry rob, but I have a sense of dignity. I wouldn't do that to an atheist, Christian or Jew. It hurts, and makes me feel bad. I can't be sorry for feeling like that. 

Forth, if I'm hotheaded, I wouldn't be here for like 3 years. 
Yes, I was led to explode before, but it was never permanent. I never dealt with atheists in my real life; maybe one or two, the language is foreign to me, so sometimes I feel a little bit defensive. But I'm not a hotheaded guy who takes things too seriously.

Ok... I take a lot of issue with this.

Are you aloud to be offended? Sure, knock yourself out. However - We make fun of Christians, Jews... and oh, not Islam. It offends. 

The church didn't like criticism either, and if we had cowered before their "wrath" we would have pedo priests 
everywhere still.

You being offended is up to YOU. It in no way allows your to impact on free speech or ask others to modify their speech. The reality is the Koran is ripe for comedy, and it deserves to be laughed at. Stop taking yourself so seriously. Also, their format for the bible is identical. Did you gripe about that?
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#83
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
Episode 2 bitches!

Time to learn us some more of that Kerrang.

http://youtu.be/bcLetScBp8o
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#84
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
Wow, it's not a lot better from god's point of view. Surah 1 was like 95% evil, this is still around 80%.

I really hate god by this point. Is that what they were going for?
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#85
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
(February 7, 2016 at 7:30 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote:
Quote: And I don't quite understand what you meant by saying "You don't have to have sex with Saudi establishment figures to make millions from Quran."


Saudi funds loads of television personalities and subsidizes the sale of loads of books. If you want to be a Wahaabi Imam Saudi will pay for you. They build Mosques all over the place. Wahaabi/Salafis make millions from Saudi. And I'm saying you don't need need to be part of the huge Wahaabi machine to make money from your religion.

Anyhow, I thought Twelvers followed Jafari. But maybe I was mistaken. Many Shias are Twelvers and majority of Shias are also Jafari. If you put two together, maybe Estes likes Twelvers because they are strict like Wahaabis/Salafis. E.g. Shia equivalent of Salafis.

Yusuf can't decide if he is a scholar or not (included in my old compilation of fails, created long before the upload date suggests):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOoTqmE3S2M


To be clear, some of this food labelled as "Halal" I see in the import shops, I would not even feed it to starving Syrians. Makes you wonder who paid who to get the certification. I heard somewhere that some Halal certifiers in the West act like the Mafia and charge huge amounts for being the "most strict". Just buy unprocessed stuff I say. Some have even accused elements of Halal lobby in the West of using profits to fund "terrorists", but my main issue is the lack of accountability and transparency. If I was a Sikh, a Hindu or a Jew, I'd want to avoid Halal for religious reasons, but often it's not labelled as Halal in the main supermarkets.

With the drop in Oil prices, they won't be able to spend like they used to.

I was searching about Jafari; and no wonder I never knew anything about them : Jafari ARE Twelvers, sometimes they are refereed to with "Imamia". So a "Jafari" Shia is a "Twelver" Shia. My sources (Wikipedia + google) say they are the same things.

And about this Estes..so he's saying that Alexander the Great founded the Catholic Church, even though Jesus was born 300 years later ?
These videos are not good for your health; MNMP.

I know how low Wahhabies can get. Lying to convert people is the most insulting strategy anybody can carry on.

To be honest with you, most food in the modern era is junk. Unless it's Sushi, Rib-eye or ...mmmm fresh stuff, it doesn't worth it.
I wish if I had a farm with cows, to get my own Halal Ribeye away from these blood sucking food companies.
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#86
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
(February 9, 2016 at 11:58 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: With the drop in Oil prices, they won't be able to spend like they used to.
Not only that, the wars in the Yemen, Iraq and Syria aren't going to end anytime soon and al-Saud has big stakes in those wars. I hope the Houthis and the terrorists they fund in the region can invade Saudi because al-Saud deserves it. Pretty sure the Saudi pilots don't really want to be bombing innocent people in the Yemen, and it clearly exposes al-Saud's brutality to the word for all to see.

(February 9, 2016 at 11:58 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I was searching about Jafari; and no wonder I never knew anything about them : Jafari ARE Twelvers, sometimes they are refereed to with "Imamia". So a "Jafari" Shia is a "Twelver" Shia. My sources (Wikipedia + google) say they are the same things.
Well, Jafari is mentioned in the Amman Message as one of the recognized Madhhab, along with Ibadi, Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki, Shafi'i, Zahiri and Zaydi. But not Ishamali strangely. King Abdullah of Jordan seems to me to be a reasonable man, and Ishamalis seem to me to be reasonable people (unlike the Jafaris). I can understand Ahmadi not being recognized, but Ishamali? I don't understand.

(February 9, 2016 at 11:58 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: And about this Estes..so he's saying that Alexander the Great founded the Catholic Church, even though Jesus was born 300 years later ?
These videos are not good for your health; MNMP.

All I can seem to find on the Internetz are these outlets of Fascism. For people who hate everything modern, these Wahaabi/Salafi types have really embraced modern technology. It's rare that I find actual people of knowledge, and everyone keeps retorting how much they adore these Fascist Da'is.

All I can really find on YouTube are these personalities who complain about materialism but are constantly begging for your money and spend on lots of designer clothes, nice gadgets and going on many holidays where they achieve nothing other than further division (between not just the Ummah and the Kuffar, but between the groups of the Ummah too). Not only that, they travel around like homosexual men and the sexual repression of these Wahaabis is obvious.

(February 9, 2016 at 11:58 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: I know how low Wahhabies can get. Lying to convert people is the most insulting strategy anybody can carry on.
Majority of YouTube is lying Wahaabis. I am sure you also took issue with Adnan Rashid's defining of the word "thumma" towards the end of the video. I remember seeing him on the TV once on a current affairs show and he told the Rabbi something to the effect of: "I believe in your right to believe in the stoning of people to death (like the Torah allows) and I will defend your right to believe that." And the lady was shocked that he should defend stoning like that; he was trying to make himself look good at the expense of Jews. He was basically saying: Jews believe in stoning too, so why criticize me and not them?

You can watch the entire show here, with context, if you have a spare hour:
(in the show they talk about Wahaabi infiltration of some British schools, which was the news at the time, because if a school is frequented by 90% Ummah apparently the children don't deserve a secular education. Apparently letters were sent out claiming that Salafi parents would be the best people run these schools because they are strictest.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlerISGgT5E

(February 9, 2016 at 11:58 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: To be honest with you, most food in the modern era is junk. Unless it's Sushi, Rib-eye or ...mmmm fresh stuff, it doesn't worth it.
I wish if I had a farm with cows, to get my own Halal Ribeye away from these blood sucking food companies.

I went for some Mexican today. And the 'pulled' pork burrito was pretty nice. It saddens me that people don't want to eat pork because it does not harm as much as some other foods deemed Halal. Alcohol (which you defended), and even chicken have done more people harm than pork. For chickens its though salmonella or bird flu (and there are videos on YouTube of chickens eating rats and mice by the way so it's not just pigs who can be disgusting). I think there is an Iyah in the Quran which says that if you're dying then you can eat and drink forbidden things, but I can't remember which one it is.

Just like with the new Mexican food outlet which opened today, I would be straight in if someone was kind enough to offer Arab food. I'm not sure if I'd rank Arab food above or below Ramen, but I really like Kebabs and Falaffels. And Egyptians like bread, and I like bread. One day I will learn how to make my own flatbread.


And quickly in relation to the Quran Reloaded:

So happy that sperm video got mentioned on their show. Maybe I will subscribe. They show do more deconstruction videos like that on the Quran Reloaded. It's sickening that people actually defend Dawhman.

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#87
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
Yeah, the response to that sperm eating guy was great. He's such a total idiot.

I'm signed up to all three of their channels Smile (They also have Unpopular Culture where they do movie reviews and play games etc. Equally funny even if you've not seen the films!)
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#88
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
DawhMan is getting a lot of backlash at the moment for his views on celebrating Muhammad's birthday (he says not to and is apparently in a minority), so hopefully he will lose many subscribers. Then again, the average of his worshipers seems to be around ten years old so I doubt he will suffer majorly from this since his fanbase has a very short attention span. DawahMan likes to think of himself as part of the Ulama,but people have exposed him on numerous occasions, and he is now digging himself a hole on the subject of Malwid.

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#89
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
(January 24, 2016 at 7:26 am)robvalue Wrote: Many of you have probably seen some of The Bible Reloaded where Hugo and Jake laugh at the bible.

I've only watched their making fun of christian tv shows on occasion. That's pretty hilarious, but I've already got my fill of making fun of the so called holy books. So I'm not that interested.
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#90
RE: TBR starts The Quran Reloaded!
(February 9, 2016 at 6:29 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote:
(February 9, 2016 at 11:58 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: With the drop in Oil prices, they won't be able to spend like they used to.
Not only that, the wars in the Yemen, Iraq and Syria aren't going to end anytime soon and al-Saud has big stakes in those wars. I hope the Houthis and the terrorists they fund in the region can invade Saudi because al-Saud deserves it. Pretty sure the Saudi pilots don't really want to be bombing innocent people in the Yemen, and it clearly exposes al-Saud's brutality to the word for all to see.

Death & mass killings that wars cause are not something I would wish for. 
Why don't the west and Russia stop selling weapons to the Saudies & the Houthies instead ?

Or for a change, why don't Britain fix what it did in the Sykes-Picot agreement ? it can discuss with France how to fix the mess they made by slicing a one, big chunk of land into 20 or more states, each with funny national anthems & hilarious flags. Fake nations; deemed to be restless.

Al-Saud are indeed brutal, but their brutality can be stopped or at least decreased anytime, if the "Kuffar" stopped selling them arms to go on with their crimes. And who brought them to the throne anyways ? you should be aware of that.


Quote:Well, Jafari is mentioned in the  as one of the recognized Madhhab, along with Ibadi, Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki, Shafi'i, Zahiri and Zaydi. But not Ishamali strangely. King Abdullah of Jordan seems to me to be a reasonable man, and Ishamalis seem to me to be reasonable people (unlike the Jafaris). I can understand Ahmadi not being recognized, but Ishamali? I don't understand.


Saying what Islam is, and what Islam is not, must not come from political regimes, because we'll witness a bias issue. 
What is the difference between this, and between Wahhabi puppets who believe what other political regimes say about what Islam is ?


Quote:All I can seem to find on the Internetz are these outlets of Fascism. For people who hate everything modern, these Wahaabi/Salafi types have really embraced modern technology. It's rare that I find actual people of knowledge, and everyone keeps retorting how much they adore these Fascist Da'is.

All I can really find on YouTube are these personalities who complain about materialism but are constantly begging for your money and spend on lots of designer clothes, nice gadgets and going on many holidays where they achieve nothing other than further division (between not just the Ummah and the Kuffar, but between the groups of the Ummah too). Not only that, they travel around like homosexual men and the sexual repression of these Wahaabis is obvious.

They are humans, if you hadn't notice it just yet. So of course they will embrace the technology they grew up with.
Nobody adores them; but they treat them like humans; because : they are humans, MNMP. I feel you are treating them as if they were a savage tribe, that is alien to the human race. Let's not turn it into a "Lord of the Rings" scenario, where Wahhabies & Salafies are painted as "orcs".

Wahhabism is not a race or a gender, neither is it an animal kingdom. It's a line of thought.

Yes, they are extremely easy to manipulate, and since their way of belief is full of logical holes & mistakes & contradiction to the main religion, they can be used by different powers, to cause certain disturbances. 

Like turning Sunna against Shia; to do that it's easy to manipulate "Wahhabies" to battle "Twelvers"; soon, each will drag the whole sect with them.


Quote:Majority of YouTube is lying Wahaabis. I am sure you also took issue with Adnan Rashid's defining of the word "thumma" towards the end of the video. I remember seeing him on the TV once on a current affairs show and he told the Rabbi something to the effect of: "I believe in your right to believe in the stoning of people to death (like the Torah allows) and I will defend your right to believe that." And the lady was shocked that he should defend stoning like that; he was trying to make himself look good at the expense of Jews. He was basically saying: Jews believe in stoning too, so why criticize me and not them?

You can watch the entire show here, with context, if you have a spare hour:
(in the show they talk about Wahaabi infiltration of some British schools, which was the news at the time, because if a school is frequented by 90% Ummah apparently the children don't deserve a secular education. Apparently letters were sent out claiming that Salafi parents would be the best people run these schools because they are strictest.)

They say: don't throw rocks at others, when your own house is made of glass.

He did make a point, in the media, you rarely hear about the violence existing in the Torah & the Bible. In Palestine, Arabs suffered from Jewish extremists who were pretty much worse than ISIS. But hey : you'll be called anti-Semite. Because that story is told, with facts and lies.

Though, stoning has no base in Islam. It never was mentioned in the Quran. But Adnan was aggressive, and trying to put Nawaz to shame, so he slipped. Threw rocks, and his house was so fragile. One should not be hotheaded in debates.

But the point about the Torah ? yah, that's a point that wasn't answered:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#Torah

Stoning homosexuals and women is a Jewish thing, plain & simple. But blamed on Muslims despite the Quran not having anything related to that. Sadly, many Sunnies followed in their footsteps




Quote:I went for some Mexican today. And the 'pulled' pork burrito was pretty nice. It saddens me that people don't want to eat pork because it does not harm as much as some other foods deemed Halal. Alcohol (which you defended), and even chicken have done more people harm than pork. For chickens its though salmonella or bird flu (and there are videos on YouTube of chickens eating rats and mice by the way so it's not just pigs who can be disgusting). I think there is an Iyah in the Quran which says that if you're dying then you can eat and drink forbidden things, but I can't remember which one it is.

Just like with the new Mexican food outlet which opened today, I would be straight in if someone was kind enough to offer Arab food. I'm not sure if I'd rank Arab food above or below Ramen, but I really like Kebabs and Falaffels. And Egyptians like bread, and I like bread. One day I will learn how to make my own flatbread.

I hope you check your sources; such a verse does not exist.
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