Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine

[athrock]

The lesbian says to herself, "I want to do this with another woman, and I don't care what anybody else thinks."

It's that love of self that prevents her from loving God and seeking Him above all other pleasures. (You and I have love of self issues that manifest in other ways.)

When she dies, God will not force her to spend eternity in His presence. Unfortunately, outside is weeping and gnashing of teeth.

But some prefer it.

So, it's not the nature of homosexuality that qualifies her for eternal hell, it's the fact that God says "if you loved me you wouldn't do that," that is the actual sin?  Why the hell would any God, creator of all things in existence, have the time or interest to care about private, consensual sexual acts in any form?  

I don't think I said that or implied it.

Homosexual acts are intrinsically evil. Evil in and of themselves.

Now, I personally think there will be homosexuals in heaven (and surely heterosexuals in hell), but it won't be because God overlooked their sex acts.

And why you asked? God is holy. We are called to be like Him. Homosexual acts preclude this.

[athrock]

I'm not appealing to authority; I'm saying that one footballer is better than another.

WLC is a professional philosopher and apologist. Esquilax is not even an amateur; she's an internet forum member with an inflated opinion of her own knowledge of philosophy and/or debate skills.

Lol, oh give me a break athrock.  How dare you even go near the topic of debate skills when yours consist of:  "the bible said so.  Therefore it's true!" as an answer to everything.   I agree with Divinity.  I don't think you are here to engage in any rational discourse.  

You misunderestimate my debate skills, Lady. 

[athrock]

What a bizarre and antiquated belief system.

How very silly.

You've spent a lot of time thinking about it, have you?

Or is this just a reaction off the top of your head?

[athrock]

When did you leave the Catholic Church, CD? How old were you?

None of your fucking business, shitstain. But I'll tell you this, I left the church for perfectly good and cogent reasons, I left it because I grew up and started thinking for myself, not letting others dictate to me and do me down like they've done to you.

Called it.

[LadyForCamus]

So, it's not the nature of homosexuality that qualifies her for eternal hell, it's the fact that God says "if you loved me you wouldn't do that," that is the actual sin?  Why the hell would any God, creator of all things in existence, have the time or interest to care about private, consensual sexual acts in any form?  

I don't think I said that or implied it.

Homosexual acts are intrinsically evil. Evil in and of themselves.

Now, I personally think there will be homosexuals in heaven (and surely heterosexuals in hell), but it won't be because God overlooked their sex acts.

And why you asked? God is holy. We are called to be like Him. Homosexual acts preclude this.

Why are they evil? Why would God give one shit?

[drfuzzy]

Lol, oh give me a break athrock.  How dare you even go near the topic of debate skills when yours consist of:  "the bible said so.  Therefore it's true!" as an answer to everything.   I agree with Divinity.  I don't think you are here to engage in any rational discourse.  

You misunderestimate my debate skills, Lady. 

"misunderestimate"?  A BUSH-ism?  Ack.  (why is there no puking emoji?)
Debate skills??  Someone who keeps saying "god this" and "god that" on an atheist forum, to try to prove to people who don't believe god exists that they are WRONG?  Someone who revels in insults and putdowns?  Someone who hasn't managed to post a decent argument for any point yet?   If you had debate skills (or could prove the tiniest bit of your beliefs) we'd be agreeing with you by now.  

Riiiiiiight.    

[Brian37]

So, it's not the nature of homosexuality that qualifies her for eternal hell, it's the fact that God says "if you loved me you wouldn't do that," that is the actual sin?  Why the hell would any God, creator of all things in existence, have the time or interest to care about private, consensual sexual acts in any form?  

I don't think I said that or implied it.

Homosexual acts are intrinsically evil. Evil in and of themselves.

Now, I personally think there will be homosexuals in heaven (and surely heterosexuals in hell), but it won't be because God overlooked their sex acts.

And why you asked? God is holy. We are called to be like Him. Homosexual acts preclude this.

Thats it, no more nice guy from me. FUCK YOU. You are a sick delusional person.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

What a bizarre and antiquated belief system.

How very silly.

You've spent a lot of time thinking about it, have you?

Or is this just a reaction off the top of your head?

Who are you, again?

[rexbeccarox]

What a terrible fucking god to worship that wants to control who people have sex with.  I don't think most religious people understand that the god they worship says a lot about them.  I wouldn't be caught dead worshiping such a god.  Especially since I have a daughter who is a lesbian.  Fuck them.  My daughter's fucking perfect.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course. No one here is forcing you to believe anything different about sex, especially not me. And I'm sure your daughter is lovely.

I understand that having my views regarding gay sex is pretty much the worst sin around these forums. But I'm not going to lie about my beliefs.

C_L, can I ask what you will do if one of your children is LGBT? Will you tell him or her they should abstain from sex? Will you tell them the Church won't recognize it if he or she gets married? Will you support him or her if they want to have children, via adoption or otherwise?

[Aractus]

I must have missed the place where God calls the INDIVIDUAL an abomination. I see two places where the homosexual ACTS are called an abomination.

Those who committed those acts were to be executed. Okay. So what? We execute people for serious crimes even today. A holy God has high standards...does that surprise?

This is your argument? Firstly, we don't execute people any more, we view that as a human rights abuse, the only countries that continue to practise it are backward thinking barbarians.

"But the Bible is just saying the act itself is an abomination". Really? Is that all. 1 Corinthians 6:10 calls them sexual perverts. 1 Timothy 1:10 calls them Sodomites.